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[–]BigFatRetard 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Damn straight.

That 8 year old girl who was shot by rioters, what excuse do the monsters have for her senseless death? What crime will they posthumously convict her of to justify what they and their movement did?

[–]Lostcarkeys 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They'll simply never mention her and will accuse you of racism for doing so. It's not hard. It all comes down to who has the loudest voice and the most backing from the MSM and the puppet masters.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Black Lives Matter is the black KKK.

Keep in mind that most of what we learn about BLM comes from the MSM.

Do you actually believe the nonsense that they are reporting?

Their goal is to create division and a race war; assuming we all go along with it.

Don't fall for the media PsyOp.

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This. Murderers should go to jail, but BLM is not the enemy. That's just classic divide-and-conquer

Let's focus on the people behind the curtain. The people pulling the strings. The people setting up these conflicts in the first place.

[–]Zednix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Go read the BLM website. That should be enough information for most reasonable people to dislike their tactics.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree that the organization has been hijacked.

Many of the original leadership of BLM was murdered.

Also, DAFAQ is with the trans alliance. Literally, a deal with the Baphomet.

[–]Zednix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

BLM is a hate group. Racism is part of their core. The leader of BLM in Toronto thinks whites are subhuman and wants to exterminate them.

[–]wrongthink 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Post it a third time, you only get your point across if it's done in 3's.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's actually pretty funny.

I suspect BLM is down with those who favor the 3's.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Finally a place where you can cut the bullshit and put the cards on the table. BLM are hypocrites. Those people just want power. They do not hold the ideals they proclaim.

[–]america_first_1776 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Is there any site with a blm kill counter?

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Black Lives Matter is the black KKK.

Keep in mind that most of what we learn about BLM comes from the MSM.

Do you actually believe the nonsense that they are reporting?

Their goal is to create division and a race war; assuming we all go along with it.

Don't fall for the media PsyOp.

Edit: Roughly 20% of US veterans are African American.

These men and women are not ok with the treason, and subversion of the Constitution.

[–]twosheds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Roughly 20% of US veterans are African American.

These men and women are not ok with the treason, and subversion of the Constitution.

BLM is a different thing than black America. There are black people who are great: veterans, patriots, and all that. BLM seems to mostly be loud mouth leftie assholes, black supremacists, black separatists, and violent revolutionaries. This isn't based on the MSM, this is based on reading their own site's about/philosophy pages, reading or watching interviews with BLM leadership, and reading articles written by BLM leadership.

You can hate BLM, the organization, without discounting the message that black lives matter.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can hate BLM, the organization, without discounting the message that black lives matter.

Many (probably most) of the original BLM leadership was murdered a few years ago.

St. Louis police investigating link between Ferguson activist's murder and 2014 killing — after both victims were found fatally shot inside torched cars

The organization was probably hijacked afterwards by Soros and others.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the message that black lives matter.

The core message of BLM about black Americans being victimised by the cops and the system is wrong.

Yes they get killed at 2.5 times the rate white Americans do, but they get arrested at 5x the rate. Which means they get killed at a lower rate per arrest than white people do.

It's entirely down to the higher black arrest rate. Which is down to offending, not racism in police arrests. If you look at the homicide arrests and convictions they are about 7x higher than white, I can't see how police stop and search could possibly affect homicide arrests. You don't find a corpse stashed in someone's hoody in a stop and search.

As for the social inequality; there are black immigrant groups, Ghanian and Nigerian, that have a significantly higher pa gross income than white Americans do. There are plentiful examples of other non white East and South Asian groups with higher pa earnings.

The American system being racist enough to suppress the life outcomes of minorities is absolute bullshit. The only colour anyone cares about in America is green.

[–]AnarchySpeach 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Can't be too surprised. The war on drugs created a poverty stricken hell hole in majority black areas. Finally a movement starts that declares them exempt from the law. No shit they're gonna abuse their new power.

Guns out. Stand your ground (and if you can't you should move to a state that legally allows you to.)

Wait for them to kick in your door before opening fire. Don't drive anywhere you can't make a legal u-turn.

Stay safe out there. Don't engage. Don't enter areas they control. Wait them out. We have time on our hands. They don't. Eventually these wackos will run out of steam.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How was it the war on drugs made people poor rather than the highly addictive nature of crack itself?

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Both. Wrongful convictions, the addiction to a drug, bystanders killed by gangs and cops, and the economic collapse in the surrounding area that results from living in a crime infested shit hole where calling the cops could cause the drugged out gang dude next door to open fire under the false assumption that it involves them.

A lot of innocent people get caught in the crossfire. It's also hard to leave an area when nobody wants to buy your house because the neighborhood has gone to shit.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The war on drugs created a poverty stricken hell hole in majority black areas.

What utter tosh.

The poverty was caused by absentee fathers and single mothers. That's been shown to be a major cause big poverty in any community.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the democrats for the current welfare system. The black community is in a worse way now than it was back in the fifties.

And I'm quoting Thomas Sowell on that.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

caused by absentee fathers

most of which were from drug arrests, gang related deaths (most gangs deal in drugs), the lack of ability to gain sufficient money to raise the kids because of the lack of jobs in the surrounding area, and a small amount of "Wait, that's not my kid" from the Maury Lie Detector meme.

and single mothers.

You'd be surprised how many of them divorce their husband for bullshit reasons. lol

blame the democrats for the current welfare system.

I do. It's part of the problem for sure. Plenty of people abuse the system, those who play by the rules don't have enough to get by, and plenty of people are too stupid to realize the easiest solution would be to leave the area they're in.

The black community is in a worse way now than it was back in the fifties.

I agree.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm talking out of wedlock, which account for about 70% of black births.

Divorce is a very minor factor.

most of which were from drug arrests, gang related deaths (most gangs deal in drugs), the lack of ability to gain sufficient money to raise the kids because of the lack of jobs

The number of father's lost to death is numerically insignificant, most of the black dad's won't ever go to prison and those that do will mostly be in there for shorter terms.

This is almost always child abandonment on the part of the father.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for the link. None of this answers why it's higher. Saying it's higher "Because they're black" doesn't answer anything.

If the poverty was caused by them leaving, what caused the sudden spike in them leaving? The democrats have done horrible stuff, but I'm not seeing the correlation that they're causing them to flee.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I don't agree but I know you don't care so whatevs.

[–]america_first_1776 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Well, you're wrong. That's why we don't care.

[–]forgottenpasswordguy 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It seems silly to lay such bold claims on such a large group, it's akin to saying "Americans are dumb" when we all know that can't be said for everyone.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

the banking institutions and taxation are the real problem,

young black people are just being brainwashed in order to help fulfil their agenda,

whos agenda? im not sure exactly

but the black people really think it is about racism, its just a distraction to the real problem,

like i said the banking institutions

buy bitcoin and opt out of the system

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

You do realize there is more to being black than being poor right? A lot of black immigrants are pretty well off yet still get shaken by the racism in these white supremacist lands. We suddenly lose our personhood and many are not prepared to deal with it. I can agree poorer black people could benefit getting into cryptocurrency though.

[–]Dragonerne 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Wrong. The entire american system is institutionally biased towards blacks, favoring them. White woman gets threatend by a black man in a park, calls the police and she gets put in jail? White woman saying all lives matter and she gets shot on the street. White couple defending their property against marching black supremacists on private property and the couple is investigated by the system. Assign for college or university as a white and suddenly you have to compete on equal footing with blacks that have a lower score than you. Assign for jobs and get denied because you had the wrong skin color.
Go to social media and you're banned and your voice is silenced if you say its okay to be white or never apologize for being white.

I'm really tired of hearing about how victimized blacks are when the entire system is antiwhite - especially against white women. Black victimization is part of the oppression of whites.

If this is all looney talk to you, then consider that those you consider "privileged whites" don't consider themselves white, and by law they're not, and that they use their power to manipulate you into hating whites. But trust me - if you speak up against them, you will be silenced like the rest of us. That's real power.
https://i.redd.it/a7t9iowhjd851.jpg

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lol, good one!

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks :)

[–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Please use the word racist if you mean racist.

"White supremacist" has a very specific meaning even though some people want to mean just everyone they don't like.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

White supremacism is what I used because I live in a country where whites a valued most and blacks are valued least no matter what we do. It's not about actions, it's about race.

[–]ctvzbuxr 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Where is this mystical land you speak of? China? No, they value Chinese above anything. Africa? No, actually, most African countries are fairly hostile to white people, as a few South African farmers can probably tell you. The Middle East? Probably not, that's dominated by middle eastern people. South America! No, wait, that can't be it.

I hate to break it to you, but "white" western countries are the only ones that aren't systemically racist to outsiders.

[–]bald-janitor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No its about 13 50

[–]proc0 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's communism in disguise. Black people are being used, it's sad.

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    [–]twosheds 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The KKK might have killed someone back in the early 80s, they never really proved that one way or the other. Even the SPLC in a brief moment of honesty admitted that the KKK isn't a potent force in America at this point.

    [–]KKKTranny 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    call me biased, but they're worse. my group, for example has hardly done anything worse than petty vandalism to make a point. when I say my group I mean in modern times, its not to say lynchings didn't happen long ago by group with same name in same area.

    [–]zerosis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

    I feel like it's a little more nuanced than that. It's such a huge and non-centralized thing that I'm not sure you can compare it to a more 'solidified' hate group, if that makes sense. It's basically a hashtag as much as it is a movement.

    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

    No, it doesn't make sense. What you're saying is that the hatred and antiwhite racism is so ingrained in our society that it's not isolated or solidified into a single hate group; in other words it's systemic.

    [–]zerosis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

    What? Don't develop some kind of victim complex about this. Black Lives Matter isn't 'so ingrained into our society,' it's a fad that that a ton of people are supporting and a ton of people are equally irritated with. Comparing Black Lives Matter to the KKK or a Nazis or whatever is just dumb. The movement has done good, it's done bad. It's not organized, and some people that support it hate white people, some don't. Acting like it's 100 percent evil or righteous is ridiculous and dogmatic.

    [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

    You can say the exact same thing about the KKK or Nazis or Communists. The fact that it's not a "solidified" hate group means that there is societal wide support for BLM which makes it even worse than a "solidified" hate group.

    BLM is explicitedly antiwhite and anyone supporting BLM, however uknowing, is complicit in the murders, destructions, fires, etc.
    The same people that wont distance themselves from BLM are the ones saying "All Lives Matter" is racist. I'm not going to entertain the possibility that they're just supporting a "good cause" and don't hate whites.
    People that don't hate whites say all lives matter.

    [–]zerosis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

    Someone supporting BLM doesn't mean they hate white people, that's ridiculous. Acknowledging the racism that black people face isn't equatable to hating white people. Saying All Lives Matter isn't racist, it's just shit-stirring in certain contexts and you know it. Black people are allowed to speak up for themselves, just like white people are. You're allowed to say Black Lives Matter, you're allowed to say All Lives Matter. Neither is wrong.

    [–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

    Someone supporting BLM doesn't mean they hate white people, that's ridiculous.

    Yes, it does. They might not personally perceive it as such but this is what they do. It's normalized and internalized hatred of white people.

    Saying BLM is racist, because it's connected to the movement. The lives of black people matter is not racist, but BLM is.

    just like white people are

    Trust me if millions of whites ran around yelling "White Lives Matter", killing police officers, shooting blacks, murdering people, looting stores, putting buildings on fire, taking down statues of historical black leaders, forcing blacks to resign from their jobs, jailing blacks for defending their homes, jailing blacks for calling the cops, demanding blacks kneel and submit, demanding blacks wash their feet, demanding that universities and hiring processes artificially give bonus scores to whites and killing a black woman for saying "All Lives Matter" then you would have an entirely different take on this if I told you "White Lives Matter" is totally not racist.

    [–]zerosis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

    I understand your frustrations with BLM, but I disagree that the movement is inherently racist toward white people. A white person supporting BLM (Because let's be honest, it's mostly middle to upper class white people vocally supporting it) isn't 'hating' white people, it's people jumping on a moral bandwagon that they think is doing genuine good in the world. At worst it's a bunch of white people feeling guilty because they know the way black people are percieved subconsciously by most people in the Western world. Black people and black features are frequently viewed as less beautiful, less refined, more 'mysterious,' foreign, an underdog, primal, damaged or dangerous, unwanted, slightly or heavily lesser-than. That would get to anyone after a while, and I don't blame some black people for complaining about being forced to live in a culture that casually views them like that. I'm sure I'd get sick of it too, as a white person, if I was living in a country where the standard of normality and beauty was black/asian/latino, and I was more likely to get shot just for being white (whether by cops or by my own people due to the socio-economic ramifications of being white in said country). Most of it has fuck-all to do with white people themselves. An infinitesimally small sector of extremists were responsible for the lootings and shootings, it's dishonest to claim that it's 'millions of black people' doing this, or that the majority of BLM even condones that. The statues that were taken down were monuments to the Confederacy, which was a dark chapter in America's history and I don't blame them for taking them out of public places. As a white person, I would want something taken down too if it was honoring the mass slavery, colonization and murder of white people. Obviously giving a higher score to a black person just for being black would be ridiculous, but I highly doubt that's happening on a pandemic scale and it sounds highly sensationalist. If you want to provide a source for that, I'd love to read more into it.

    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

    A white or black person supporting BLM is hating white people. Even if it's just "moral bandwagoning". They might not perceive it as such, but that's what it is.

    At worst it's a bunch of white people feeling guilty because they know the way black people are percieved subconsciously by most people in the Western world.

    I can't take this serious. Whites are constantly attacked in society, in movies, in media, social media etc.

    An infinitesimally small sector of extremists were responsible for the lootings and shootings

    What's your take on the charlottesville rally? Peaceful? Non-racist?

    The statues that were taken down were monuments to the Confederacy, which was a dark chapter in America's history and I don't blame them for taking them out of public places.

    Yes of course you don't blame them. I'm not surprised.

    and I was more likely to get shot just for being white

    Doesn't happen in the US. Blacks are less likely than or as likely to be shot as whites.

    I'm sure I'd get sick of it too, as a white person, if I was living in a country where the standard of normality and beauty was black/asian/latino

    You would be free to move back to your home country.

    Obviously giving a higher score to a black person just for being black would be ridiculous, but I highly doubt that's happening on a pandemic scale and it sounds highly sensationalist. If you want to provide a source for that, I'd love to read more into it.

    Sure, google affirmative action, disparate impact, caren act, aca 5 bill.
    The mistreatment of and racism against white people is institutionalized and systemic in the US.

    [–]zerosis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

    Not surprised that you're not even remotely taking this conversation seriously, but it's nice that you just let me know your true motives with that 'move back to your home country' line. Christ. You're like a caricature of a white racist. This kind of shit is exactly why saidit will never get off the ground and will never compete with reddit, it's full of people like you who refuse to see nuance in anything and want to fight the left by throwing the victim card right back at them in the most bullshit and transparent ways. Do you honestly think anyone is convinced by this 'oh I'm a poor opressed white man' shit? Black people have it shitty, white people have it shitty. You're just making it worse by playing into the oppression olympics and acting like white people are getting cosmically shafted right now.

    Also, it's on you to provide sources, I'm not going to spend a week googling to find some sensationalist report of a liberal arts professor trying to make a social statement in Seattle, or something.

    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

    I'm sorry but I don't have to take your abusive and gaslighting language.

    Black people have it shitty, white people have it shitty.

    There are not "two sides" to this, when you have literal laws and policies that discriminate against whites simply for having the wrong skin color.
    Your response was expected after your defence of BLM. This is why I didn't bother finding sources to educate you on this topic. History will judge.

    [–]Velocity 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The one thing no one ever mentions in regards to this is: Multiculturalism is a false and failed faith based ideology. It only serves to benefit the ruling class by creating balkanization and division. Though it is zealously treated as sacrosanct to certain political persuasions, none of them are able to explain why it is held as sacred to them.

    [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    BLM is a terrorist organization. Every single member needs to be arrested, sent to Gitmo, thoroughly wetboarded, and then forgotten.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Wow, you are so incredibly not racist.

    [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    nice informative reply. Way to not disprove anything I said.

    [–]wrongthink 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The KKK should mint a medal for them.

    [–]TruthTeller 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    What's funny is that anytime a black is the victim, BLM co-opts and owns them big time. But when blacks are the victimizers, then they have nothing to do with BLM.