Google's self-learning AI AlphaZero masters chess in 4 hours - Beating previous best chess engine StockFish in 100-match tournament

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Pretty impressive. 4 hours of Google training time could be like 4 days of training time on another platform though. Wake me up when general intelligence is here.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That's true, it could be 4 hours of training using 10% of their AWS server farm, lol. Which could be 100 years of normal desktop computer time.

I think general AI is getting close, the big problem seems to be that it can't compartmentalize different areas of knowledge. So it can master 1 thing, but then to master another they have to start from scratch again. If it could like learn from chess, and then apply the things it has learned to checkers, and maintain good strategies for both while being able to switch between them appropriately, then we're cooking. Then it can learn 1000s of skills masterfully, and then only use each when appropriate. That's really approaching general AI, I think we're probably 10 years away from basic general AI that can task-switch easily

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I think we're probably 10 years away from basic general AI that can task-switch easily

I hope so, as an accelerationist. But then again, neural nets have been around since the 70s.

[–]trident765 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

These AIs just work by training on lots of data.

You can make a simple chess algorithm that works by just searching for your position in a massive database of grandmaster games, and picking the move the grandmaster made.

Google's algorithm might perform a little better because it would do some interpolation if the position is not in the database, but this is essentially what it is.

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I believe the point here is that Google's algo didn't use any database of grandmaster games, or chess history at all. It "learned it all" in "4 hours". Yes I suffered through the whole damn video.

[–]trident765 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Ok, then what I wrote doesn't apply.

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hahha,. The devil is in the details. What if google trained* their algo against stockfish itself?

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You don't need an AI to beat me at chess...

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This reminds me of AlphaGo, a computer program that plays the Go board game. It lost to the world champion but learned to counter his strategy the next game. It seems like the learning curve even surprised the programmers.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes AlphaZero is based on AlphaGo, it's like a more generalized version of AlphaGo that can learn any game, basically