"Perhaps it is better in this present world of ours that a revolutionary idea or invention instead of being helped and patted, be hampered and ill-treated in its adolescence... that it pass through bitter trials and tribulations, through the heartless strife of commercial existence..." Nikola Tesla

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"Perhaps it is better in this present world of ours that a revolutionary idea or invention instead of being helped and patted, be hampered and ill-treated in its adolescence — by want of means, by selfish interest, pedantry, stupidity and ignorance; that it be attacked and stifled; that it pass through bitter trials and tribulations, through the heartless strife of commercial existence. So do we get our light. So all that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed — only to emerge all the more powerfully, all the more triumphantly from the struggle." Nikola Tesla, 1905

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Even u/JasonCarswell is doing that with psience.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

A nice quote indeed. I'm not sure what you mean. I don't subscribe to psience and my blind faith in Big Pharma scientism almost killed me, but akin to what Tesla said, I'm like the Phoenix rising from the ashes of my former life (no relation to the Economist cover) to raise some hell (not in a Satanic way) in this life by doing my best to resist the globalist Zionist corporatocracy tyranny. (My resistance through my subversive screenplay/graphic novel project, my local and national Green Party efforts, and my contributions to SaidIt and WikiSpooks.)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

It really isn't just "Zionist" my friend, look here. Start at 14:27 and realize these are ANTI-ZIONIST Jews talking about how we are their property AS SLAVES: https://www.bitchute.com/video/SpjbobMPSa1d

But that their plan isn't complete yet, so they have to stay cooped up in Israel and wait for everything to be tidied up so they can reign supreme as their god YWVH wants them to. By the way, when Moses meets God at the top of the mountain, and Moses asks him: "What is your name?", what does God answer? "I am that I am". In other words, "I have no name.". Who is Yawveh then?

That "zionist" stuff is just more divide and conquer crap. "It's just the zionists!", "They are not real jews!" blah blah blah. They all follow the Talmud, even those that say they don't. They follow it through tradition and cultural indoctrination. And the first step of that goes like this "We are superior to all other humanoids, and lying to them is your first duty and virtue." So if you think a Jew will tell you... NOPE.

You don't "subscribe" to something you know zero zilch nothing about? Gee, that's surprising. Well no, not really. But you call it "scientism" without ANY evidence whatsoever. And you are wrong. But since you can't distinguish between talking about whether something constitutes a science or not and talking about how the scientific process applies within a discipline, there is nothing to be done with you in this regard.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

" It really isn't just "Zionist" "

You'll never find me just blaming Zionists alone. I always use the "globalist" and "corporatocracy" qualifiers. Globalists want global centralized control of everything, the opposite of decentralization and autonomy. You can't get any more centralized than global. The corporatocracy controls all the means of production, the networks of finance and distribution, etc etc etc. And as far as the Machiavellian groups like the Illuminati, New World Order, Royalty, Vatican, Jesuits, Jews, Islam, Satanists, Luciferians, Pedophocracy, Hollywood, Banks, Academics, Military, Governments, and all systems of control, real or imagined - they're all infiltrated and dominated by the Zionists. It's shorter and to the point.

They are anything but cooped up in Israel - the are the ruling class and corporatocracy - globally, working on their Agenda 21 plan to control everything and enslave humanity in open-prison cities.

I don't care what they believe because their actions speak how they truly think.

Why would I subscribe or claim to know something about which I know "zero zilch nothing" about? Logic man.

I didn't call it scientism. I said "AND" because I'm not buying into any science-based derivatives anymore, be it scientism, psience, psyinz, séance, cyan's, or Scientology. I flew too close to the sun before and barely survived. On this front, I'm okay with being ignorant of psience until it can be more clear and straightforward about itself - without the dismissive attitude. "There is nothing to be done with [me] in this regard." That's my choice and I'm fine with it. You be too.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, OK. =D

But you still refuse to distinguish between talking about the nature of a discipline as an actual science and talking about how the scientific process applies within said science. As such, we can't talk about it, and I find that disconcerting. I wrote that you are "doing this" with psience because you have previously described it as "scientism" and rejected my offer to talk about how it is a science, but not about how the scientific process applies within it, since that would require you to learn psience first.

But let me assure you, we are on the same page regarding scientism, Big Pharma, skewed "research papers" and the whole enchilada.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

" The nature of a discipline as an actual science [contrasted to] how the scientific process applies within said science. "

Interesting. Worded differently than your other attempts. Now, my curiosity is piqued. I find that a lot of "sciences" could just as easily be called "crafts", or "arts", or commonly "practices". It remains to be seen how much of the scientific method is applied and utilized in these disciplines and practices. However, if there's any faith-based aspects then I'll still call those parts scientism, perhaps so much that the entire system gets corrupted, like any other dogmatic social virus full of truths, part-truths, and deceptions. If your "Psience" is legit, IMO, they made a huge mistake in calling it that. IMO, they should have gone with an acronym or found a nicer word, real or not, and created a backronym. Branding matters. My reaction thus far is only based on my first impressions, and they count, and your inability to clearly summarize it (without sounding braggadocious).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Just giving you a quick tour before going into the heart of the topic.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Summarize a science? Easy: it's the exact science of the mind. But I wrote that already.

Why does "branding" matter? It's a science, not a new mousetrap. Also, psychology was taken, which would be the actual word for "understanding and study of the mind". This science also replaces philosophy and all forms of religion and spirituality, replacing that wishy washy stuff with FACTS.

As far as I know, psience is called that because it is simply the Fact of being Psi, that is, the fact of melding mind with objective reality. This can of course not be achieved without a thoroughly scientific method.

I will start by describing how an exact science of the mind has come to be, since I know that much. Psychology of course is not a science. They use lots of fancy words but it rests on half-truths at best, and we both know that "truth" can sometimes be as bad as a lie. The first step in any science is MEASUREMENT. Without measuring the mind, one could not ever hope to attain the status of an actual science.

As such, the first thing a budding psientist does is learn to measure HIS OWN MIND. It should be obvious that nobody else can measure one's mind. The so-called "measurements" of psychology are all relative: there is no zero point, and any non-zero point is measured in relationship to groups. As such, the mind itself, or any of its manifestations or states, do not get measured. Psience starts by offering ways in which the aspiring psientist can attain a zero-state within his mind and CONFIRM that it is so. After establishing a zero point, you have one end of a ruler. You can start measuring things with that. Zero, bigger than zero, much bigger than zero, and so on.

Since psience deals with the mind directly, numbers are not important. One learns to recognize a state and characterize it in relation to a zero point. But make no mistake about it: the measurement is absolute, not relative. It is absolute in relation to a measure of zero, contrary to psychology's "measurements" which are relative to group statistics.

From there, an aspiring psientist can inventory everything that can be measured within their own mind. LOTS AND LOTS of stuff. Consider it akin to, say, a geological survey of a plot. You would need such a survey to tell you, for example, that digging for minerals "here" would leak toxic minerals into the stream and thus poison the lake and destroy life in there. Same thing with psience. If you will control your mind, you will inventory ALL its parts and functions, and then decide where you want what, and what you want to take out.

What happens in each and every single case is that the ability to do this is that BELIEF is identified as the absolute mind-poison. Not because psience says so: it does not. But among the few that have gone through the process, agreement is unanimous: belief is poison. It prevents connecting the mind to Objective Reality itself and cocoons it within a web of illusions which become subjective "reality". Unreality is more like it.

This unreality of mind, rife with beliefs and their consequences, is what causes all suffering. I am stating this, not psience. Without ANY beliefs at all, a pure connection of the mind to the Objective Reality of everything can be obtained. Belief, if you will recognize it for what it is, is the source of this "scientism" which you and I both dislike so fervently, where truth and lie are almost equivalent.

Believing in ABSOLUTELY NOTHING becomes the first goal of the psientist. And only a psientist can REMOVE material from his mind. Other "methods" can reinforce, overwrite, or achieve other things, but only psience can REMOVE. And interestingly, once one gets the ability to do so, one does almost only that, since we are overflowing with unnecessary data, beliefs and other material.

Of course, this only speaks about what a psientist does FIRST. What happens next is another matter, and I am not sure it is appropriate to get into that at this point, as I am sure you have questions by now, that you've started getting a sort of outline guided tour.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So this quick tour of psience leads us to the second thing an aspiring psientist gets rid of, after belief: thought. Psience allows one to easily verify and confirm, without any possibility of doubt whatosever, that personal thought does not exist. It's an illusion. All thought is telepathic, as psience can clearly once again demonstrate without any possible doubt. So one removes the illusion of personal thought, once one has spent enough time proving that it is absolutely and wholly unnecessary to the pursuit of one's life.

And here, after just this second step, one can see that the psientist's mind, devoid of both belief and thought, doesn't resemble that of most humans. AT ALL. It is the mental state of the much-expected Übermensch. There are further steps that one unerringly undertakes after that as a psientist, but their meaning, importance and benefits are hard to convey to conventional mind.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So why would one think that psience is indeed a science? Well firstly, it entirely disavows belief which is the basis of scientism and pseudoscience. Giving zero credence to any conceptualized ideas is equivalent to dealing with Objective, Absolute Reality, since the information being used is neither believed, nor conceptualized, nor "thought about". It is thus information that exists independently of any mind grasping it. This is what a FACT is. How can a discipline using logic and reasoning on pure FACTS be fictitious in any way? It can't.

But if you voice your objections and questions regarding this, I will gladly put them all to rest.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, given your silence in the face of so many words, I shall keep going forward.

According to the Science Council: "Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence."

Scientific methodology includes the following:

Objective observation: Measurement and data (possibly although not necessarily using mathematics as a tool) - Psience does this;

Evidence - Psience has tons of this, although it can mostly be observed and understood by psientists. Just like in advanced mathematics, for example;

Experiment and/or observation as benchmarks for testing hypotheses - Psience has this;

Induction: reasoning to establish general rules or conclusions drawn from facts or examples - Psience has this;

Repetition - Yes, reproductibility is at the heart of psience: its conclusions can be tested and tested by competent practicioners and the results will always be repeated, using a variety of cases and approaches. And where this applies, the reversed process can also be achieved, where effects are observed, causes are inferred from these observations and the expected causes are then discovered as expected;

Critical analysis - Psience has this;

Verification and testing: critical exposure to scrutiny, peer review and assessment - Insofar as there are peers, which are few, psience also has this;

Therefore all criteria are met. Psience can be applied only by its practitioners (obviously) but on anybody. Its applications are endless, but serve only the practitioner himself. Psience as a service to others will not be offered for a long time. There is no money to be made from it. Besides, the entirety of the science is under NDA, I think for this reason: it can therefore not be commercialized. It couldn't anyway, but at least this way people don't get hurt trying to do it.