What ideology isn't based in violence beside anarchocapitalism?

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[–]Matroskin 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your self defense argument doesn't absolve anarchocapitalism from being based on violence. The whole system is based on violence, just like any other system where you control access to resources against uncooperative parties. Your property is not yours because of some god-given right or natural state of things, but because ownership is maintained through violence.

[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Violence is a tool, not a base. If one makes an ideology on ice cream manufacturing, it is clearly not based in violence. And no, I do not care to hear about the cows sore nip̵ples, thanks.

Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If one makes an ideology on ice cream manufacturing, it is clearly not based in violence.

Blue Bell did kill 3 people from a listeria outbreak, and more relevantly, Nestle owns Dreyers and Haagen Dazs. Nestle has quite the kill count going on, and those weren't accidental. They even hired assassination squads in S. America.

[–]Druullus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's not a base for volunteerists, but it is for everyone else in case their subjects don't comply.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sorry, I'm having trouble finding that bi-line, can you help me by pointing it out here.

[–]Druullus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The only reason the central planners have to resort to violence, is because the people refuse to comply.

[–]soundsalad 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How to destroy a socialist with one question: "And how are you going to enforce socialism for people who don't want to live under a socialist system -- with coercion and violence right?"

Capitalism and free markets are the natural and freest state of living and transacting, and they allow for all other economic and political philosophies to exist in tandem.

Sure, you will technically be inherently stealing land and resources from other people, but it's still the most moral and practical approach.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are Christian socialist co/ops. But this socialism is based on voluntarism and utilitarianism.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So sad to see people use terms they don't understand because of a massive psy op to brainwash them into not understanding things.

[–]soundsalad 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Voluntaryism is the only moral political philosophy.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Representative "democracy" is violent. They will MAKE you wear a mask and beware if you don't, you might get beaten, arrested, whatever it takes.

[–]Pis-dur 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

As masks are known to protect to some extent against Covid19 (I think you wanted to address that particular situation), that's understandable for everybody to wear it in public indoor places, except ones that will suffer from it due to health conditions like asthma, etc.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

No, they don't work. This is fairly well established. Plus, so what? COVID-19 is bullshit. Nobody dies from it.

[–]Pis-dur 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

No, they don't work.

Citation needed.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-masks-gloves-dont-coronavirus-experts.html

[–]Pis-dur 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I meant scientific citation. This link doesn't contain any study. Moreover, it is from March, so quite beginning of pandemic.
So here you go:
- https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext
Here's nice article that mentions this meta-analysis of 172 studies, it's written in not scientific language and it's from 26th June 2020 - https://www.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/news/your-mask-cuts-own-risk-65-percent/

Also, wearing such mask is about spreading virus to others. It's not only your mask that protects you to some extent, it's other people's masks that protects you and your mask protects others.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

From a cold. Yippee. Let's end civilization because of A FUCKING COLD. I've already wasted enough time on these inanities.

[–]Pis-dur 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So you don't believe science?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You got owned. LOL.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

About what? I posted the first link that came up. And I really couldn't care less if "make believe" believes I got owned.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sure

[–]ReeferMadness 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem is you illogically redefined violence to mean literally everything except the thing you want to push. Then you claim that everything except what you are pushing is bad because violence is bad and everything is violence.

However, since criticism is violence and anarcho capitalists criticize everything it is anarcho capitalists who are the most violent of all. Check and mate.