How the hell are the administrators and moderators not overwhelmed by the number of reports?

submitted by OffAndSphere from (self.SaidIt)

I have seen so many damn "go back to Reddit", "nigger", "fag", and other dumb one-liner comments that it's getting ridiculous. To all the current moderators and administrators, thanks for the work you're doing; I'm sure you're already getting overwhelmed.

I do have some questions, though.

  1. At what level of the pyramid of debate would someone have to start at—not drag the discussion down to—to get their comment or post removed?

1A. Is there a different answer to the question 1 if the comment or post is on a subreddit that censors opposing opinions?

Please, u/magnora7 or some other administrator, may you answer these questions?

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[–]magnora7 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

If you advocate violence, you get removed.

If you repeatedly drag the quality of discussion down the pyramid of debate you can get removed.

That's really all there is to it. Just do your best!

[–]theoracle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If you advocate violence, you get removed.

If you repeatedly drag the quality of discussion down the pyramid of debate you can get removed.

That's really all there is to it. Just do your best!

You are advocating violence against speech.... I am being serious.

[–]noice 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

vi•o•lence

n.

Behavior or treatment in which physical force is exerted for the purpose of causing damage or injury.

Can you state how physical force can be used to injure a non-living, non-physical thing, i.e. a concept?

[–]theoracle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Speech is a physical thing. Removing it causes damage. Would you like me to remove you or your property?

[–]OffAndSphere[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So, a post that's just name calling wouldn't get removed, just because it started with name calling?

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes correct for the most part, and that's for example the whole reason IP2 is allowed to exist (but also why it's not allowed on /all)

[–]OffAndSphere[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You also mentioned "opposing opinions that are high on the pyramid of debate" in your moderation policy. How high do they have to be to be considered high enough to not be removed?

Edit: What is "IP2"?

[–]Mangomatt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

/s/ice_poseidon2. A group originally formed on reddit to protest/counter the main subreddit of the former twitch, then YouTube, then mixer, then youtube again livestreamer Ice Poseidon. Everyone there were 'fans' who grew to resent him because of a percieved decline in quality and personality. They thought he was censoring dissent because he controlled his main subreddit, so they basically made their own group dedicated to hating him. Both subreddits got quarantined then banned due to the fanbase toxicity, but only the hate subreddit successfully migrated here, where it now stands as a strange monument to loving and/or hating various things about him, streamers formerly associated with him, and the significant counterculture they've created as a result of their obsession.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Again, it's a relative thing. If someone is repeatedly dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate relative to the other comments in the sub, then they can be removed by the mods. So the sub rules are the same as the site rules.

[–]OffAndSphere[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What if they only kept dragging down discussion from the highest level to the second highest level? Also, what is "IP2"?

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The exact details like that are up to the discretion of the moderator. IP2 is a sub. Welcome to saidit

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

This is how I see it as a bit of an oldfag on this site. The pyramid is more of a guideline than a set of rules. That's what everyone is striving for. Number one and number two rules are you never talk about fi... The one rule is freedom of speech. You can say anything as long as it's not inciting violence. Ain't that cool lol...welcome to Liberia of the internet...you is free here

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Liberia

one of the first things the freed US slaves did in Liberia, was to take African slaves, lol...today Liberia is a scary, dangerous, broken shithole.

[–]rdh2121 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Excellent questions. Also, could the admins say if they're looking into the bans going on at /s/pinkpillfeminism? Not 4 hours after defending the sub on /s/saidit, I found myself banned as well under dubious circumstances, and would like an update, if possible.

[–]OffAndSphere[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't get what you're saying. May you elaborate?

[–]rdh2121 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This thread pointed out some suspicious banning behavior on the part of the /s/pinkpillfeminism mods. Some people were saying that posts on that sub should lead to the sub being banned, but I argued that it should be allowed to stay. Not four hours later, I myself had been banned from /s/pinkpillfeminism for unsatisfactory reasons, after just having defended them hours before.

Still waiting on an update for whether or not any of these unwarranted bans will be overturned, and whether the admins will step in and deal with the misbehaving mods over there.

[–]Antifa 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Any pill bullshit. Black, red, pink what the fuck ever is internet cancer.

There is no rationale, there is no thought, there is just reaction.

[–]theoracle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Admins will get overwhelmed when the site gets bigger. Solution is optional moderation.

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/54cp/can_we_make_moderation_optional_can_we_have/

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/52rx/attention_magnora7_my_ideasolution/

[–]america_first_1776 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why don't you just stay at reddit. Seriously? What you refer to as "name calling" becomes arbitrary enough where power mods and admins will eventually just make this place exactly like they did to reddit. Why do people like you have to take over the entire damn internet for yourselves?

[–]zeusdx1118 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

(u/magnora7 comments back): "Go back to reddit nigger fag."