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[–]PainfulTruthsMatter 173 insightful - 4 fun173 insightful - 3 fun174 insightful - 4 fun -  (51 children)

This was unfortunately a long time in coming. As transgender activists succeed more and more at infiltrating functioning parts of society, the transgender movement can coerce more and more people into bowing to its demands by threatening them to label the nonbelievers as hateful bigots. Organizations are essentially hollowed out and forced to restructure themselves to focus heavily on validating transgender people. Any reasonable criticism is immediately labelled hate speech in order to stamp out any dissent that could threaten transgender activism's strong position, which benefits from portraying itself as a constant victim of society while shouting out any reasonable criticisms that might threaten its current power.

Transgenderism is rooted in delusion, and our unwillingness to view it as such and willingly accept it into the LGB community has caused untold damage for centuries to come. We've allowed a new form of homophobia that is particularly hurting lesbians to be promoted as progressive.

[–][deleted] 76 insightful - 16 fun76 insightful - 15 fun77 insightful - 16 fun -  (26 children)

transgenders sound a lot like muslims

[–]PainfulTruthsMatter 117 insightful - 5 fun117 insightful - 4 fun118 insightful - 5 fun -  (18 children)

The transgender movement's behavior is an awful lot like a fundamentalist religion, yes. Right down to fantasizing about murdering the non-believers.

[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Is it a coincidence that the ottomans also weaponized european eunuch slaves against european nations?

[–]jet199 46 insightful - 2 fun46 insightful - 1 fun47 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

And Iran currently has the most trans surgery in the world.

[–]bobbobbybob 35 insightful - 6 fun35 insightful - 5 fun36 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Muslim world

be gay: be dead

be trans: live

hmm

[–]Tovasshi 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's because being gay is illegal there. The surgery is used as gay conversion therapy.

The surgery there is also very poor quality.

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Not only that but because their is a lot of excess lonely single virgin males in muslim society, the muslims elites permit transgenders because there is too many lonely men for stability that is what I am guessing or they could just be using them as harem guards. However keep in mind that muslims elites also use these virgin males as sleeper agent terrorists in foreign countries they want to conquer. That is why the vast majority of Jihadists are men and the few women in the group are usually women kidnapped from foreign populations and used as sex slaves.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously? Source?

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

the ottomans also weaponized european eunuch slaves against european nations?

what?! this happened?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire#Ottoman_slavery_in_Central_and_Eastern_Europe Yup Ottoman's used a lot of captured European male slaves in their military

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

no more brother wars

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That is not going to happen, I don't know the political situation in Europe but from what I hear most people are far left leaning.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This doesn't go into depth about weaponization of slaves in particular, but see this video for general information about European slaves.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

that's interesting. will go read about it

[–]catoboros 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Janissaries were not eunuchs (warfare of the era was muscle-powered and eunuchs have weaker muscles). Contemporary paintings show them often with full moustaches or beards. White eunuchs were servants of the Ottoman court. Some rose to be provincial governors. See Kapi Agha.

[–]dong_master 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Funny enough almost every hyper aggressive trans person you'll meet was born male.

[–]Yamyam 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Coincidence 🤔. I think not.

[–]luckystar 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The concept "trans women are women" kinda reminds me of the concept of transubstantiation in Catholicism. Basically, Catholics believe that the little wafers blessed by the priest that they take during Communion are literally the body of Jesus. Not "this symbolizes Jesus", they think Jesus is literally in those wafers, even though there is no scientific way to prove it.

Personally, I think it's fine if we view the wafers as a symbol of Jesus, and a trans woman as a trans woman, but it's when you get into the "this thing is literally another thing because I said so" then it enters into religion levels of brainwashing.

[–]PainfulTruthsMatter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The moment you identify as a woman, you literally are a woman and have therefore always been a woman since you were born, even if you were born with the "wrong body", so goes the trans logic nowadays. It really is a very religious mentality.

[–]lmaonope333 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

nah. I mean the woke left treats both of them the same way but they're actually very different

[–]Fleursdumal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I find they are more like Scientology

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Sceintology huh? You know in these times of madness I havent heard much about them... I wonder...

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes.

TRANS ACTIVISTS VS. SCIENTOLOGISTS! The Similarities are Uncanny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcqqGJrCpFY

[–]Yamyam 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're a cult.

[–]bonked_or_maybe_not 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Except there are a lot of Muslims. More people are born with 11 fingers than are trans.

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Yeah because muslims think that being trans is faggotry and refuse to think that way even though it is allowed by their caliphates

[–]PencilPusher55 46 insightful - 3 fun46 insightful - 2 fun47 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

"0.6% of U.S. adults identify as transgender", granted - Imagine how many of that statistic has actually gone through hormone therapy or actual sex changes. If that percent just includes people dressing as the opposite sex, imagine how small the number must be.

That percentage of the US calls the shots and bullies people into kissing their ass or else it's cancel culture in full force. I don't understand why we can't just write these people off. Not all trans, the militant ones haha.

[–]XirallicBolts 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Statistically speaking, most people should organically know at most just one transgender person IRL unless they're actively seeking them out.

When you have half a classroom identifying as trans, it's impressionable kids hopping on a dangerous bandwagon

[–]h56hh56h54y5y 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The scary thing is how they push the myth that puberty blockers are 100% safe, with no long-term effects, as if the human body has a pause button and will resume growing normally any time you decide to un-pause it, no matter how long you wait. Kids are going to end up permanently stunted, and likely with even more mental/emotional problems, because their parents want woke points.

These kids are identifying as the opposite sex at the same age I was identifying as a melanistic leopard.

[–]XirallicBolts 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We knew ages ago that smoking stunts your growth permanently, but there's debate about the long-term effects of intentionally messing with hormones during critical hormone-related years.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Meanwhile up to 2% of men have a cross dressing fetish while up to 3% are offending paedophiles.

It's pretty clear why it's been so easy for those two groups to take over the trans rights narrative. They simply out number transsexuals by so much.

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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    You mean the transgender delusion is somehow codified in the kabbalah?

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      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      Wow, so I watched the entire 35-minute video in good faith, HOPING it would be about the kabbalah and its link to homo/trans horrors. But there is about one whole sentence about that in there.

      You've reminded me why I don't watch vids unless I am personally interested in the topic as a whole. As such, I endured 35 minutes of hell for 10 seconds of information. It's a very very bad deal.

      I agree with all you write, but I was hoping to learn more about kabbalah and the trans insanity op. And that's a huge fail.

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      ProTip: Set your YouTube default to play at 1.25, then 1.5 when you get used to it, then 1.75 then 2.0. And there are addons for more speed. It takes a while but you get used to it and it's like reading (faster) with your ears. My default starts at 2.75 and I can speed it up to 4x speed for slow clear talkers and of course I will slow it down for some things, and always for music. Not only does it cut your time in half or more, it also frees up your hands and eyes (except with writing or reading intensive/important info) to multitask unless it's a visually heavy video.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Thanks, I'll give that a try.

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        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Thanks for the links. Yes, I know about Baphomet and the whole satanic / Jewish plot to bring it about, so it was the specifics of the Kabbalah stuff I was more interested in.

        Cheers.

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          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Most things I know are inborn. But there are blank spaces I am unable to penetrate directly, so I must do the old "watch videos" thing. Kabbalah is one of these.

          [–]Wrencer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          It is true tho ? Even if I said that trans women are women, and that I wouldn't mind dating one, I still get labelled a "terf". It's not enough to support them. If you mildly criticize them, you're out.

          [–]MezozoicGay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          They are getting way too much fundings, even outside of USA/UK/Canada. In our country they received more funding from western countries in last 2 years, than whole LGBT community in last 30 years combined. Seems this movement is either giving a lot of money, or a lot of power, so it is very heavily invested.

          [–]joeytundra 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          You can see many of these tactics still carried out in a blueprint written by gay men in the late 80's. This was when NAMBLA was still apart of the movement. https://www.docdroid.net/CDz8gks/the-overhauling-of-straight-america-by-marshall-kirk-and-hunter-madsen-pdf#page=4

          [–]everythings 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Oh ok good I knew there were people out there. Yeah seems like reddit is full of insane bots

          [–]xerrofoot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Cry more, your tears give us strength to fight on.

          Transgender 'ideology' is nothing of the sort. It's science, backed up by decades of research that you and countless others like you refuse to accept because it doesn't jive with your outdated, prejudiced narrative that trans people are all delusional and self-harming lunatics. Pull your head out of your ass and get this through your thick skull: you are on the wrong side of both history and science, and you're being cancelled because people with actual intelligence and reason have had enough of your hateful shit. You're accusing Reddit of kow-towing when the reality of the situation is that your kind have become so spectacularly unhinged, your behaviour towards trans people so abhorrent, that continuing to allow you a platform has become socially and economically untenable for Reddit.

          You can sit on Saidit and play victim as much as you like, but it won't actually make you victims. To quote a certain subreddit, you're the asshole, and you will continue to be regarded as such until such time as you take a step back, develop a sense of empathy and look at the people your words and deeds have harmed.

          [–]PainfulTruthsMatter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Sure thing buddy. Chopping your dick off makes you a real woman, women talking about menstruation is literal violence, and women not wanting to fuck you is bigotry.

          We're done kowtowing to your insane bullshit. People with dysphoria and autogynephilia need help, and that help doesn't involve demanding all of society play an elaborate game involving mass suspension of disbelief. If you have fucked up mental issues, you gotta deal with them in a productive way and learn to accept yourself for who you are like the rest of us do.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          That's seriously so fricking depressing to know that now...I don't know if America will ever go back to normal. If there is a normal anymore.

          [–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          It's not rooted in delusion, it's rooted in Cultural Marxism and the destruction of Western Civilization via constant internal disruption and attack.

          [–][deleted] 110 insightful - 6 fun110 insightful - 5 fun111 insightful - 6 fun -  (53 children)

          they're banning subreddits that aren't even hateful. they can't even keep up with why they want to ban so many subreddits. a lot of these subs were just for women or gay people. but i guess if you have a sub that doesn't support the delusions of trans people or doesn't want them in it's hateful. because remember, trans people have to be in everything and you can't say no to them because that's hateful

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            [–][deleted] 38 insightful - 3 fun38 insightful - 2 fun39 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

            facts lmao, reddit is always preaching about feminism and gay rights but when you don't do it their way it's bad

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              [–][deleted] 32 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

              ah yes, how could i forget? trans people > every other person

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                [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                they really are! they also yell at you for not wanting to be near them to keep you in check, they care so much about us!

                [–]SheSellsSeaShells 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                More specifically, trans-identified males > women.

                [–]PollyPocket 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                See also: men's rights.

                [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                but when you don't do it their way it's bad

                liberalism in a nutshell

                [–][deleted] 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (37 children)

                How do you feel about this one?

                because remember, black people have to be in everything and you can't say no to them because that's hateful

                [–][deleted] 59 insightful - 2 fun59 insightful - 1 fun60 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                just as dumb. i'm tired of people replacing white characters with black ones instead of making unique black characters, it's also not racist or hateful to not to put black characters in media. though i don't see what this has to do with my comment

                [–]ThePlague 35 insightful - 3 fun35 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 3 fun -  (35 children)

                Is it so radical to think that some white people might sometimes just want to be around other white people? You see blacks, hispanics, etc express similar views. Hell, on some college campuses, black-only spaces are made official by the school.

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                  [–]ThePlague 40 insightful - 3 fun40 insightful - 2 fun41 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

                  It's not a "default white space" if anyone of any race can go there. So, if there are "places for minorities to meet up and support each other", there should likewise be places for whites to do the same. Fair is fair, after all.

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                    [–]bobbobbybob 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                    No one is stopping them from associating in white-only groups on their own time

                    Except the law, which deems such groups as racist and exclusive and being a member will get you kicked out of most colleges.

                    Posting a pro-trump tiktok is enough to threaten enrollment.

                    Whites are a minority, one that has been heavily invaded by a global majority, than then insists on building exclusive majority spaces within the last remaining holdouts of white minority clades.

                    Your viewpoint is so small you are unable to see reality.

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                      [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      On the less extreme end of the spectrum, many frats get by by just adding a few token "diversity" people, some clubs are largely white

                      But you said:

                      No one is stopping them from associating in white-only groups on their own time

                      It's not true and now you're moving the goalpost.

                      [–]Earl_Harbinger 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                      No one is stopping them from associating in white-only groups on their own time

                      They're likely to get expelled...and it certainly wouldn't be supported by the college.

                      Considering that other groups have had less access to colleges

                      They currently have more access.

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                        [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        Well, if they start to wear white hoods and chant they will not displace us.

                        Moving the goalpost. Whites are not allowed to have white-only groups.

                        Well, more if you mean before they didn't have any and now there is an effort to remedy that.

                        Access to white people is not a human right.

                        There's a difference between not supporting affirmative action because you think it's not meritocratic and flat out ignoring that some people have disadvantages socioeconomic or otherwise.

                        It's called being privileged. A privilege mistakenly given by whites to non-whites that now are used to privilege and more begets more.

                        Not saying that people have "privilege" which is a word I dislike

                        I will say it. Non-whites are privileged.

                        but some people have disadvantages that the government can step in to even out the playing field.

                        Reframed: The government can discriminate against whites to favor non-whites in our own countries.

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                        if you're black and don't go to college and get it all paid for, you must be choosing not to go.

                        [–]Cratis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                        There's lots wrong in what you said, but

                        No one is stopping them from associating in white-only groups on their own time

                        Is just ridiculous. Any student forming or joining such a group would be expelled--unless the group was secret, and if it were ever exposed the student would be expelled. There was a girl who got expelled last week merely for pointing out that black-on-black killing numbers dwarf by a hundreds or thousands of times police-on-black killings. And you saying "well, you could have an all or mostly white group so long as you don't call it" that just points out the double standard, because universities not only allow but encourage exclusive groups, programs, and scholarships for other races.

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                          [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                          By "groups" I mean friend groups, clubs, associations, hobby groups, and places where you can socialize

                          You can't have clubs, associations, hobby groups for whites-only without risking punishment.

                          You're saying that in a school that is 60-99% white, that you still need a white support group for being white?

                          Yes of course.

                          but needing university resources to support you for being white and nothing else?

                          Yes of course.

                          Changing the setting to Mexico, in a university where students are 60-99% Mexican, do you need to have a Mexican support group?

                          Whites don't want to mass immigrate to Mexico. Your example is asymmetric.

                          Cancel culture.

                          Yes, cancel culture against any pro-white advocay. Anti-white advocay is encouraged and taught in universities.

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                            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                            Anything worthwhile is difficult. That should be a given.

                            [–]emptiedriver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                            the difference is generally there's no such thing as "white" as a broad culture - there's german, italian, irish, british, polish, Russian, but the overall "white culture" is a mix to the degree that sometimes hispanic is and sometimes it isn't included... For "black", there is a group of people in the US who descend from slaves and therefore lost their ancestry and share a history of overcoming that.

                            white people a) don't even share the common history of being slaveowners since some never were and b) don't need to share a history based on that. So then what is "being white" that's being celebrated?

                            [–]ThePlague 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                            Common European ancestry. We descendants of Europe have a great deal to be proud of, including building the most advanced civilization the world has ever known. The fact that we can communicate as we are right now is tribute to that.

                            [–]emptiedriver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                            India, China, Japan, Egypt, all over asia and the middle east did as much "civilization building" as Europe. Just because someone has the same color skin as some successful countries they claim heritage to things? A darker skinned person may have a much more direct ancestral link to a much more advanced nation, by the sorts of metrics you are considering. Iceland, Poland, Slovenia or Wales may not necessarily have a story of great technology and colonization to tell when compared to Iran, Turkey, Egypt or India, for example.

                            Being near other countries is a random connection when you speak different languages, have different foods, cultures, religious traditions, laws, needs, and resources. The world is big, history is long, and a lot of things happened in a lot of places beyond just whatever particular events you are considering important. There are periods of great expanse and then of nothing for centuries in a lot of regions, there are exchanges and then separations, successes and failures.

                            In the end it's just weird to get stuck on looking similar to some of the people who did some of the notable things during particular periods. If you're looking for merit comparisons why aren't you focused on people with high standardized test scores or some other actual proof of personal capacity? Visually resembling people who may have achieved things in previous centuries is not impressive.

                            [–]ThePlague 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                            India, China, Japan, Egypt, all over asia and the middle east did as much "civilization building" as Europe.

                            Oh, really? How many men have any of those countries put on the moon? My point was "most advanced civilization" that the world has ever seen. Europe, and their descendants, are responsible for that. As well as harnessing steam power, virtually all major scientific breakthroughs of the last 500 year (Galileo, Newton, Gauss, Maxwell, Gibbs, Boltzman, Einstein, Fermi, Bohr, Feynman, Hawkings, etc), harnessing electricity, harnessing the atom, computers, the internet, etc.

                            [–]emptiedriver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                            Again, did you go to the moon? Should a Russian with light skin have more pride about that than a dark skinned American who works for NASA? It isn't about the melanin.

                            [–]bobbobbybob 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

                            there are no default white spaces. All white countries are 'diverse' and there are no havens allowed.

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                              [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                              Eastern europe is not germanic.

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                                [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                You can't ask Eastern Europeans to give up their lands as havens for non-slavic peoples like the germanics and you also can't ask germanic peoples to seek refuge or "safe haven" in slavic lands.
                                Great of you to pull the nazi-card. Great argument.

                                Chances are "whites" in the US are not germanic either, but in this context white often but not always means western european ancestry. It is the germanic peoples that are being genocided and who is disallowed self-advocay.

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                                  [–]whateverneverpine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                  Are you a white supremacist? What do white people need "havens" for in the United States?

                                  [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  are you a brain fucked leftist retard?

                                  "white supremacist" don't exist, beyond a few untermensch in their mother's basements. It is patently obvious that most whites are seriously stupid and in no way superior to anyone. Yourself, for example.

                                  No, I'm WHITE. I'd like WHITE spaces to hang out with people who are not judging me on my skin color ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

                                  thanks

                                  [–]africant 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                  whines in minority

                                  [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  Shouldn't there be places for minorities to meet up and support each other?

                                  yes, they are called 'homes'

                                  [–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  What about schools where whites are the minority?

                                  [–]mathiasprime 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  It think it's because they have stronger lobbiers.

                                  [–]whateverneverpine 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  trans people - you mean men.

                                  [–]catoboros 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  Dissenting trans people have now lost both rightwingLGBT and uncensoredLGBT. The latter was most definitely not a hate sub.

                                  [–]joeytundra 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  gay men have protection status. Lesbian women don't. there is an aggressive campaign against women. Gay men are silent for a reason.

                                  You should read Gay Revolutionary written by Michael Swift. Then look at The Overhauling of Straight America. You will see these groups were all about the men and even NAMBLA was put before lesbians.

                                  https://www.docdroid.net/CDz8gks/the-overhauling-of-straight-america-by-marshall-kirk-and-hunter-madsen-pdf#page=4

                                  [–]bellatrixbells 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  And also if you exclude them once they'll kill themselves.

                                  [–][deleted]  (151 children)

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                                    [–]TheBeefBenson 90 insightful - 4 fun90 insightful - 3 fun91 insightful - 4 fun -  (41 children)

                                    Even r/detrans... I never thought they'd ever stop that low. They're saying even stopping transitioning is hate speech.

                                    These nasty little males really hate women.

                                    [–]ne123 67 insightful - 3 fun67 insightful - 2 fun68 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

                                    This is all mostly organized by an absolutely insane man in a dress nicknamed Bardfinn (or Penny). Searching his name on kiwifarms brings up a lot of evidence of what he's been doing, collected by an user called Nykysnottrans (who sometimes derisively refers to Bardfinn as Goth Dad). I don't like kiwifarms and don't care about the details of Bardfinn's personal life, but the documentation of how he's been stalking and targeting reddit users for months is interesting.

                                    https://kiwifarms.net/search/3326913/?q=bardfinn&c[users]=Nykysnottrans&o=date

                                    https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tranny-sideshows-on-social-media.33028/page-499#post-5384528

                                    https://kiwifarms.net/threads/trump-enslavement-syndrome.25213/page-90#post-6083270

                                    Be a bit sceptical though, there's claims Bardfinn has cp which I personally don't believe, as I think the only evidence of that was an easily faked discord screenshot. Unlike screenshots of Bardfinn's reddit posts, which can be verified to exist, and Nykysnottrans had to walk back on his claims that Peter Pawlowski was involved with reddit's masstagger.

                                    https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tranny-sideshows-on-social-media.33028/page-517#post-5424300

                                    Example of Bardfinn admitting to massive cyberstalking (lol this man has no grounds to complain about kiwifarms):

                                    https://web.archive.org/web/20200710214605/https://old.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/hhb6to/take_it_up_with_calvin_klein_and_not_your_echo/fwc6szm/

                                    I'm calling bullshit on Bardfinn's claims of terfs wanting to "take care of that TIM", I never saw anyone in GC talking about him, if they had been aware of what Bardfinn was up to they wouldn't have been taken aback by the ban. Magdalen Berns also never said anything against jews, she linked a news article about Soros because he was a billionaire.

                                    Nykysnottrans on Bardfinn:

                                    Bardfinn imagines himself some kind of Nazi hunter on the website and that fantasy of grandeur gives his miserable life direction, purpose and meaning. He has something to get up for in the morning, he's going to track down and catch the Nazis on Reddit, and since he's a delusional paranoid and sees Nazis and Nazi conspiracies everywhere, there's always something for him to do and to keep his feverish broken crazy brain preoccupied with. It's the same reason people in East Germany became inoffizielle mitarbeiter and collaborated with the Stasi, it made them feel imporant to spy on their neighbors and narc them to the state security service.

                                    Surveillance is a very powerful drug and Bardfinn is an addict because he has the full blessings of Reddit to cyberstalk, profile and blacklist their unassuming users going about their business, unaware that Bardfinn is doing all this behind their back, until one day Bardfinn suddenly corners them in a angry reply comment with: "I see you have been posting a lot in /r/WhateverDude and /r/SFWdude, you are one of dem Nazis aren't you, I been watchin'ya boy." Bardfinn wants to infect everyone on Reddit with his own PTSD hypervigilance, cornering hapless users to let them know he's been cyberstalking them to intimidate them with the knowledge they're being watched is how he does it.

                                    It would be wonderful if Bardfinn was now used as a test-case for Reddit's anti harassment rules, because if there is one massive cyberstalker on the site following users around and letting them know they are being followed for the purpose of driving them off the site (the rules appear to specifically ban that) it's obviously Bardfinn and his bunch.

                                    https://web.archive.org/web/20200710223944/https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/dbf9nj/changes_to_our_policy_against_bullying_and/

                                    Here's Bardfinn saying "r/ItsAFetish's hate content is my new prime project" because he claims there's evidence that many of the posters are "anti-semitic white supremacists" https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/iwarnedyouterfshescomingforyou-jpg.1416872/

                                    But of course, he has never ever made this supposed "evidence" public, and has never been asked or made to either. We just have to take him at his word that he's telling the truth about the alt-right manipulating /r/GenderCritical and laughing about how easy it is - because as a lifelong psychiatric patient by his own public admission, he's obviously so reliable. Because if he did, if Bardfinn was forced to make his supposed "research" public that led to all these bans, Reddit would have to answer for the fact that they're allowing their users to be cyberstalked and profiled behind their backs by this guy - which is in violation of many laws, including EU laws.

                                    I would not be at all surprised if it turns out (and I don't have any proof for this, it's just the worst case scenario I can come up with) that Reddit were paying Bardfinn under the table to cyberstalk and data-mine their users for them in order to make it seem like they were "doing something about the Nazis on the site" and that "self-policing on the part of our community of mods is really working".

                                    There is no self-policing here, there's only a feverish, controlfreak, obsessive, paranoid mod with a horrible reputation amongst the user base getting increasingly more powerhungry, openly hostile, intimidating and downright condescending towards random hapless users and the mods of all the subs he hates. Anyone who honestly believes that /r/detrans are white power neonazis collaborating with fascists belongs in a mental hospital away from all computers strapped to a bed vomitting on themselves from the high dose tranquilizers, not on Reddit moderating anything.

                                    As to why Reddit is tolerating him, that's what every Reddit user and moderator who has encountered this persistent pest and menace has been asking themselves: How is this vermin allowed to wreck havoc on Reddit so openly and for so long? Answer: very likely because he claims to know Steve Huffman aka spez (Reddit's CEO) personally. It's most likely through pure nepotism that he's able to get away with all this.

                                    [–]Guts 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

                                    Excellent post! Everyone needs to see this. Also, read these posts he made here 9 months ago: https://saidit.net/user/bardfinn

                                    [–]ne123 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                                    Those posts are funny, but it's just someone else reposting old Bardfinn comments. Link to one of the originals https://archive.vn/4IFEe

                                    I didn't have the energy to read all of Nykysnottrans' posts about Bardfinn, so there may have been things of note that I missed.

                                    Another kiwifarms user, Ron Quixote, wrote this: "Bardfinn seems to have click data on specific Redditors. I saw him commenting about how he knew that specific users reached a post they had commented on via a post on AHS. From what I know through work regarding web traffic tracking (which is a considerable amount) wouldn't that kind of data only be available to the Reddit employees who analyze their site data? And wouldn't that be extremely illegal for a Reddit employee to pass that data off to non-employees?". Though Ron Quixote did not provide a link to this alleged comment by Bardfinn to prove it was real, so be sceptical of it.

                                    Through Nykysnottrans' posts I also found out that ChapTrapHouse, who were strongly pro trans, example https://archive.vn/xZpZy got in a fight with Bardfinn.

                                    https://web.archive.org/web/20200711025651/https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/cmw9py/chapotraphouse_has_been_quarantined/ew5fgxi/

                                    I'm laughing at the chapo in that thread who wrote "I'm just saying if you actually care about fighting bigotry and advancing trans rights, fight /r/GenderCritical or /r/RightwingLGBT or something." Chapos tried using Bardfinn as a weapon to get rid of anyone they disliked, but had it backfire on themselves, lmao.

                                    Here's chapos making fun of Bardfinn (Nykysnottrans mistakenly thought panopticon_aversion was a Bardfinn alt, it's not, it's just a guy reposting Bardfinn comments in mockery):

                                    https://www.removeddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/arhvkf/lol_wtf_is_this_sub/egnnhoc/

                                    How curious that chapos and terfs were about the only leftists to be banned 🤔

                                    [–]Guts 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                    Ah, I thought I'd stumbled upon gold when I found those comments months ago. Still, it's encouraging to learn that there are more people working to shine a light on this than I thought.

                                    [–]ne123 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    Someone may still find your link useful, I didn't find the original "I spent three decades of Sundays studying white supremacists" post by searching google. So it's at least an available archive of a post that describes some of Bardfinn's methodology (if it is a copy of one of his comments that is, but I can't imagine someone writing all that just to fake a Bardfinn post).

                                    I don't know if anyone's working on doing anything about this. Nykysnottrans doesn't want to write a Bardfinn exposé, he just wants to occasionally post about him on kiwifarms.

                                    https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tranny-sideshows-on-social-media.33028/page-507#post-5401381

                                    All I could do was link to it. It's up to someone else if they want to look into it more and try to take some sort of action.

                                    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                    I wold give this post gold, too. I'd literally take out my debit card and give you gold.

                                    [–]ne123 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    Donate to your local cat shelter instead :)

                                    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    I think it's hilarious he/she/it goes by his MALE NAME when it comes to trying to appear to be an authority on tech. https://www.fastcompany.com/3026860/a-brief-rundown-of-the-spying-questions-intels-ceo-wont-answer

                                    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    Sanctimonious hypocritical turd. Notice he/she/it mentions MGTOW but last I checked it was still quarantined. Men and boys can still read their posts.

                                    [–]Tarrock 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                    As to why Reddit is tolerating him, that's what every Reddit user and moderator who has encountered this persistent pest and menace has been asking themselves: How is this vermin allowed to wreck havoc on Reddit so openly and for so long? Answer: very likely because he claims to know Steve Huffman aka spez (Reddit's CEO) personally. It's most likely through pure nepotism that he's able to get away with all this.

                                    Also doesn't help that Spez is on the ADL board.

                                    Also didn't bardfinn offer to give an underaged boy "happy girl pills"?

                                    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    https://www.fastcompany.com/3026860/a-brief-rundown-of-the-spying-questions-intels-ceo-wont-answer Here he is, going by his male name in order to appear as a legitimate tech expert-- because the guy's obviously a misogynist to the core-- Seems like he's employed by them in some way, too.

                                    [–]ne123 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    Also didn't bardfinn offer to give an underaged boy "happy girl pills"?

                                    I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised.

                                    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    The guy is paid to work for them, I'm convinced.

                                    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                    Look up Aimee Knight / Chanellor Paid mod on Reddit, r/transgenderteens , noted for having a rapist pedophile father, she hates hates hates TERFS, claims TERFS have been harassing it/him/her. I get pedo vibes here. The top of Reddit’s food chain must consist of pedos and freaks

                                    [–]ne123 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                    You get pedo vibes? Ok, I looked Aimee Challenor up, and kiwifarms does have a thread on him where they claim he's a pedophile (or adult baby and babyfur, it's the same pedo fetish crap).

                                    I don't take everything on kiwifarms at face value, so I would have to read the thread properly and verify the evidence myself before I could repeat such an accusation as fact, and I'm too tired to do so, but if anyone else wants to read it here's the link:

                                    https://kiwifarms.net/threads/aimee-challenor-ashton-lucas-david-challenor.47181/

                                    The top of Reddit’s food chain must consist of pedos and freaks

                                    Reddit gave a golden award to the creator of /r/jailbait, so yeah... https://youtu.be/ks8xuYRPnWM?t=434

                                    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    That was some great, albeit disturbing, reading!

                                    [–]Fleursdumal 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                    If I remember correctly, bardfinn was involved in some kind of Reddit podcast and knows Reddit admins personally. Just from his comment history you can see he's chummy with spez.

                                    [–]ne123 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                    I'm guessing it's this https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/nancy/episodes/nancy-podcast-league-extraordinary-trolls-endless-thread

                                    https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2018/09/28/league-of-extraordinary-trolls

                                    From the transcript:

                                    Bardfinn/Penny: That is what we aim to do, is to put in front of people that kind of moment where they can look at anybody that they have set on a pedestal, that is spewing hate, and we want them to laugh at them. Because, as soon as they laugh at them, that's the moment in which they change their mind.

                                    Gee, I can see why he was so desperate to have TrollGC and ItsAFetish banned.

                                    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                    How do you "laugh at" someone if you ban them off your platform?

                                    [–]ne123 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    They wanted bigots to laugh at hateful ideology and turn into their allies, but when they realized people found r/ItsAFetish far more hilarious than r/GenderCynical, and trans activism more hateful than radical feminism, they had to resort to the nuclear option by wiping the other side from existence (on their platform) because they lost the war.

                                    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    Aimee Knight/Chanellor is a paid mod for r/transgenderteens look him/her/it up to be grossed out further.

                                    I think there are a ton of grooming transwomen on the top of the Reddit food chain

                                    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                    [–]TheBeefBenson 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                    This was amazing and I've passed it forward.

                                    That person's projection is astounding.

                                    [–]MezozoicGay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    That is very disturbing and scarry. Doing nothing but stalking thousands of people and paid for this.

                                    [–]thrownawaycan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                    I had never heard of this dude until he tried to take over /r/detrans when it was banned. There were screenshots of him requesting to be placed in charge of it in... I think modchat or something? The screenshots were on reddit, and the posts are deleted now.

                                    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    You can find it on Twitter-- @julepparadox has screenshots.

                                    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                    I would give you shit tons of gold if that was a THING on here.

                                    [–][deleted] 40 insightful - 2 fun40 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

                                    Even if they hated GC, they should have had some sympathy for the people who are also suffering from dysphoria but don't buy into their ideology. Saw some discussion where they said detrans was full of transphobic nonsense and maybe they could bring it back once they got rid of it. Like, what's the point if reasons for detransing are now hate speech and banned?

                                    [–]TheBeefBenson 64 insightful - 1 fun64 insightful - 0 fun65 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                    Sympathy? They only know it as a performative act one displays to signal one's virtue. I don't think there is a single shred of genuine compassion left in their souls.

                                    [–][deleted] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                    You're right on that. Detrans is back up probably because of the bad optics so the other TRAs can spare their crocodile tears.

                                    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                                      [–]muhgurldick 39 insightful - 3 fun39 insightful - 2 fun40 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                                      Detrans people threaten their incredibly fragile identities. Anything that even remotely reminds them of what they actually are is deemed hate speech.

                                      [–]PainfulTruthsMatter 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                                      One must never point out that the Emperor is naked, after all.

                                      [–]shveya 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      I remember seeing one of those guys complain about the detrans sub before, because it came up in a suggestion to him, and even seeing the word "De" in front of "trans" filled him with self-doubt.

                                      [–][deleted] 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      they should have had some sympathy for the people who are also suffering from dysphoria but don't buy into their ideology

                                      It is so clear that mutilating yourself or your kid is becoming the only acceptable way to deal with gender dysphoria. Anything else gets you labelled unfit or hateful.

                                      [–]Sebell 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      I saw someone post an example of "hate speech" - it was someone posting their own story. Not attacking anyone, not disrespecting anyone, just telling their own story.

                                      [–]dong_master 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                      These nasty little males really hate women.

                                      They seem to hate women even more once the nasty little males become women themselves.

                                      [–]TheBeefBenson 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      That's something that I think the feminists needs to think about, actually. These autogynophelic TIMs are far more vitriolic, deranged and perverse than even scumbag males tend to be. That when they stopped identifying as men they lost all restraint.

                                      Edit: they never become women. Only imitate fetishsied stereotypes.

                                      [–]Lastrevio 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      You had me in the first half ngl.

                                      [–]paranoidandroid 64 insightful - 3 fun64 insightful - 2 fun65 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

                                      True lesbians? What the fuck did they do? They were sick of trans people coming in. Also uncensored LGBT was banned for no reason. Apparently it’s transphobic to say you can’t be fucking cloudgender, or non binary is the new emo.

                                      [–]ks00 60 insightful - 1 fun60 insightful - 0 fun61 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      It's clear reddit didn't even bother looking at the individual sub content - they took a list from r/ahs or r/gendercynical and pressed the ban button.

                                      Accept the ladydick or else bigot.

                                      [–]NeedMoreCoffee 50 insightful - 1 fun50 insightful - 0 fun51 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                      You should see what is happening in subs like periods or pcos. Apparantely saying "women" , "sisters" and "girls" is now transphobic aswel on subs for womans medical issues.

                                      [–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      I’m glad I deleted it. I couldn’t bear to see that.

                                      [–]MyCat8it 49 insightful - 1 fun49 insightful - 0 fun50 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                      True lesbians? What the fuck did they do?

                                      We didn't do a goddamn thing but want a space for women to talk about women stuff.

                                      If they would just read the content of the community, they would see a supportive, loving environment that never promoted hate in any fashion.

                                      We were targeted because we were exclusive. We didn't discriminate, though. We literally excluded everyone that wasn't a female lesbian.

                                      [–]PencilPusher55 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                      LOL!!!

                                      les·bi·an /ˈlezbēən/ noun a homosexual woman.

                                      Clown world. You cannot be a lesbian if you are not a woman. You did nothing wrong. What the fuck is wrong with our culture?!

                                      [–]dandeliondynasty 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Sorry for your loss! I hope sometime this century people finally accept that lesbians are who you are & deserve your own space to exist in peace and quiet.

                                      [–]PencilPusher55 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

                                      I need some help understanding something. The term TERF is thrown around quite a bit. Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminst.

                                      So... does that mean a feminist that doesn't believe a woman with a penis is... a woman? Or could be a feminist?

                                      This world has gone too far over the line of logic and reasoning.

                                      [–]Sun_bear 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

                                      Radical feminists believe bodies are sexed but brains are not, while trans rights activists and their liberal feminist handmaidens believe brains are sexed but bodies are not.

                                      Women do not have penises. If someone has a penis, they're not a woman.

                                      [–]Zahn 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                                      But..but...boys can have periods. The Ministry of Truth told me, so it must be true.

                                      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/16/boys-can-have-periods-schoolchildren-taught-latest-victory-transgender/

                                      [–]Delia 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      No wonder kids are confused, it is bad enough they are accessing porn.

                                      [–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                      That article cannot be viewed unless you register. I'd avoid that site in the future.

                                      Also, men have hormone fluctuations which can cause nocturnal emission every period of 2 weeks.

                                      [–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                      That's not what the article was talking about. It was attempting to normalize transgenderism.

                                      [–]C3P0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      I see what you mean. A woman identifies as a "man," and of course she still has her period because she is... a woman.

                                      [–]Fleursdumal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      They've also redefined the word lesbian to mean same gender attracted. Homosexual is now problematic according to the Ministry of truth

                                      [–]WhiteZealot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Radical feminists believe bodies are sexed but brains are not, while trans rights activists and their liberal feminist handmaidens believe brains are sexed but bodies are not.

                                      There is no biological distinction between the brain and the body. It's all the body and it's all governed by genetics and undergoes evolution.

                                      Men and women are different in every respect, including cognitively, due to differences in genetics. (They have different averages for each trait or different probabilities of having a certain trait)

                                      [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Both the body and the brain is sexed. Basic biology.

                                      [–]Fleursdumal 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                      A terf is a anyone who wrong thinks. You can buy into all the propaganda than say that you aren't attracted to transwomen (but totally see them as woman) and be called a terf. Every week there's a thread about this on actuallesbians (aka actualtransbians)

                                      [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      So terfs are the intelligent women?

                                      [–]Cuppatea 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Terf is nothing but a slur. I guess that’s why they got banned. I think that Terf has become the new stand-in for what they really want to call women (pardon the language) —“bitch” or “cunt.”

                                      [–]heythere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      They are radical feminists (meaning they are more authoritarian in nature, while culturally somewhat left wing, but a decent amount of stand alone ideologies) who don't believe TiMs are women. You can in theory be a liberal feminist who believes the same, but there's no known communities of libfems who are against TRAs. There is however the LGBdroptheT movement. Ultimately feminist led coalitions including anti islamophobia, LGBT acceptance, have always been at ideological odds. Its not all that surprising that we're seeing movements pop up noting that these movements now largely in control of the west, are not always able to agree on important issues.

                                      [–]Sebell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                      Well, a transwoman wrote this book you see, it says "women do not face discrimination for being female". Rather, feminine people face discrimination.

                                      Therefore - all our laws need to be updated to reflect "feminine people" and not "female people".

                                      A TERF is anyone who thinks "female people" might face discrimination too. That's the root of the argument - the rest is just fluff.

                                      [–]PencilPusher55 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                      See to me - what you just wrote is still confusing. Actually, any time I get a response explaining one of these trans battleground explanations - I come out more confused than when I first started reading, haha.

                                      I'd make it easy on everyone. If you're a biological woman you can be a Lesbian.

                                      [–]Sebell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                                      It is very confusing. This is the easier explanation:

                                      "TERF" is just a word to mean "this women is working for the devil. If you listen to her, with her wily ways, she'll seduce you into doing the devil's work! Stop, now, while you are still pure! Do not listen to her evil words!"

                                      [–]newguy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      If they call you TERF you should called them WETA, Women-Excluding Trans Activists

                                      [–]ghostraider 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      We just defined lesbians as female homosexuals and created a space for us. That was it. From time to time there would be a rant of a new user because she had been harassed or banned from a LGBT space for stating her same-sex attraction or lack of lesbian-only spaces, but mostly was just lesbian (in its right meaning, so no males involved) content.

                                      [–]MatH0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Even /r//GCdebatesQT was banned. I guess the debate sub 'wasn't InclUsive EnoUgh.'

                                      [–]VirgilioLegendre 40 insightful - 2 fun40 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 2 fun -  (40 children)

                                      https://www.resetera.com/threads/reddit-just-banned-even-more-hate-subreddits-terf-communities-go-bye-bye.245482/

                                      The irony of that thread in that they are promoting hate and to suppress people and their rights...

                                      The biggest news is https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/ has gone private. If someone is on that and can mention the reddit alts, it will be game over for reddit. This will get a mention on his podcast and millions of people will come to these platforms.

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                                        [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (34 children)

                                        Society has become dominated by women. That is what has gone wrong.

                                        [–][deleted] 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

                                        If by women you mean men, males (TiMs), and handmaiden women who will go along with whatever men say

                                        [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

                                        There are more College Educated women than men more than ever in modern society.

                                        [–]jet199 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        So, most college educated people go into what would have been office junior positions 20 years ago. They are mostly just over hyped secretarial colleges now. Providing workers who can use computers and say the right things rather than furthering knowledge.

                                        [–]lmaonope333 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        very true. I've seen a lot of data entry jobs in my city require a bachelor's degree

                                        [–]EnnuiOz 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        In my workplace (Commonwealth Public Service) there are indeed more women than men. However, as soon as you break that down by promtional level (hierarchy), you quickly see that the glass ceiling is well and truly in existence. That is women outnumber men in the lower graded positions but, as soon as you hit middle management, and, even worse, senior management, the pendulum has well and truly swung.

                                        [–]hellsbells76 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Dumb fucking incel..lol. Maybe try putting down the gaming remote you inadequate loser..

                                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Yeah of course my 4 incher is inadequate because you grand canyon having roasties shove up 12 inch vibrators up your filthy unwashed germ petri dish cunts

                                        Tell me how many me have you been "raped" by, and how much money did the courts give you?

                                        [–]Sebell 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        I was allowed to attend college to get a "Mrs" degree - that is - I was allowed to go to college so I'd be around college-education men, and catch a husband. Afterward, I wouldn't focus on my career - just my husband and children.

                                        A lot of women with degrees are expected to get "Mrs" degrees - not have careers.

                                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Well, if that was true which it isnt with all this wummin empowerment then why are american, and western birth rates in fact so low that they have to rely on immigrants to increase their workforce? Why are women allowed to marry each other then? Why are so many women just throwing out rape accusations to propel themselves in positions of power? Waiting for a women to go to college to find a man isnt effective, if a nation does in fact want to be succesful in reproduction women have to start getting married by 13-15 years of age and not wait for them to have kids at age 25 or 33...

                                        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        College degree is like a high school diploma nowadays.

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        What? Women are getting into high positons of power with these degrees.

                                        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Not as frequently as you think. Besides, transwomen are taking over those spaces.

                                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Of course, the bucks want their male competition to be castrated it is all part of the plan.

                                        Btw it seems like the redditors are trying to ddos s/meanwhile on reddit I got a this service isnt available screen when I firsr tried getting on to reply to this inbox message

                                        [–]Zahn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Which only proves education doesn't make a person smart. But I'm sure the frame for the diploma was expensive hanging next to the flowery Live, Laugh, Love picture on the wall.

                                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        What are you saying? That education for women is failing? God damn you feminists really do have a victim complex... even when your being provided education you still want more and complain it isnt enough.

                                        [–]PassionateIntensity 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Is that a joke?! It's men doing this.

                                        [–]themadmonk_alhazred 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

                                        Women having rights = trans activists? You're going to have to show the math on that one superchief.

                                        [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 4 fun0 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

                                        I don't have to. Western Women support the disposal of men and making males a useless gender to society, they want to castrate and cast aside majority of men, while the top percent of male specimen gets to donate their sperm to women.

                                        Fuck this matriarichal society

                                        [–]themadmonk_alhazred 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        I am curious what society you are living in where what you've said is true in any sense other than pure hyperbole.

                                        [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        It will be our future! In the United Soviet States of America

                                        [–]Cuppatea 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        To paraphrase Kamala Harris, can you think of any laws that control men’s bodies?

                                        [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        There will be very soon when the democrats gain full political control of the country.

                                        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                                        Men domineer other men, and place a lot of time and effort into figuring out ways to make human beings disposable via inventing new technologies to displace workers.

                                        It's not women at the head of corporate boardrooms and sitting in the majority seats of political power.

                                        Pornography addiction grooms teenaged boys into becoming obsessed with their sexual kinks, and I think some develop an obsession with transitioning, or a delusion that transitioning into a woman will turn them into the ever-orgasming porn stars they're obsessed with.

                                        Pornography itself is making women disposable.

                                        [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                        I mean it doesnt help that most women would rather be sluts collecting child support and divorcing their husbands whenever they want the money. Dont pretend that men are turning into pornography on their own.

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        Sure buddy

                                        [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        Sure buddy

                                        t.Women triggered by the truth

                                        [–]WhiteZealot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        No, society has become dominated by unhealthy men. One of the ways in which they are unhealthy is they allow women to do things which are harmful to men and society at large when they (men) could otherwise prevent it.

                                        Men are always ultimately in control of our species because 1) they are physically dominant, and 2) having been physically dominant for hundreds of thousands of years, they have evolved to have cognitive traits that make them better leaders and fighters than women.

                                        [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        How do you think that men have become unhealthy in western leaning societies?

                                        [–]hellsbells76 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        No, we just do the majority of the work..rapists and pedophiles are the ones in power you dope

                                        [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 2 fun0 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Oh yeah, and who let the pedophiles and rapists run rampant? Women and feminists.

                                        [–]VirgilioLegendre 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        I think it's from helicopter parenting.

                                        [–]Themagicalmidget 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        God it would kick ass if Joe brought this up. Reddit could go the way of digg in a matter of months with that level of influx. It would become the not cool corporate shill site that everyone rips on in the eyes of the public.

                                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Someone should call him to talk about all of this shit.

                                        [–]magnora7 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

                                        Wow even LGBdroptheT

                                        They've gone all-in on the idea that "criticizing trans is not allowed" apparently.

                                        I wonder who is pulling the trigger on these decisions. I wonder if it's the new exec that took Ohanian's place

                                        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

                                        I don't know much about Ohanian or the new exec. Do you have reason to think it might be the new exec?

                                        [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

                                        Well the timing is just very coincidental. They haven't done mass bans like this in quite some time, and now they've done 2 rounds of it in under a week.

                                        I can easily imagine the new diversity-hire ceo wanting to "shake things up" and show how they're going to set a new tone for reddit, and cracking down. To me, it seems like the most likely scenario of why they're doing this now

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

                                        That's an interesting thought. When did the new hire come on board?

                                        [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

                                        June 10th, exactly a month ago: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/10/21285835/reddit-board-replacement-alexis-ohanian-michael-seibel-y-combinator

                                        That fits the timeline about right. Just enough time to get his office set up and learn how things work, and then start making "informed" orders about what subs to remove to clean up saidit.

                                        Meanwhile Ohanian can just walk away from the train wreck and take none of the blame... haha

                                        Alternative theory: Maybe Huffman wanted to do these changes, and will pin it all on the new black guy, just like they did with Ellen Pao. And then he'll quit in a year or so, just like Pao, yet Huffman will stay. I could see that happening too.

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        this sounds like the sort of thing ip2 would be good at figuring out

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

                                        I feel this theory deserves more visibility.

                                        [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

                                        If the Huffman scapegoat theory is also correct, then we should see Mr. Michael Seibel's name and image around reddit increasingly often, as we did with Pao while she was making huge changes to the site. That's a testable hypothesis we can look out for that would indicate he's being set up to take the blame. I imagine Seibel will be put front and center if the heat gets too hot on Huffman, just like with Pao. Just a guess though.

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

                                        Maybe we should warn this Seibel guy. Maybe he'd join the side of free speech if he realized what happened with Pao, and saw he was being set up for something similar. Saw we weren't the bad guys here.

                                        as we did with Pao while she was making huge changes to the site

                                        What did Pao change about the site?

                                        [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

                                        He probably knows what the deal is. Even if he didn't know I doubt we could convince him anyway, he's just been put in charge of a $100m company, and we're just two randos. But you can try if you want. I doubt you can even find direct contact info though. I guess you could PM him on reddit, not sure his reddit username though. He might also have PMs disabled though, as a lot of reddit admins do because if they don't they get like 100 messages an hour.

                                        Pao basically did ad-friendly revisions of the site, that blended in ads with content. And also hid the individual up and downvote counts, instead only showing the total. And a lot of other sell-out or censorship-related changes. Here's an article: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/reddit-ceo-ellen-pao-steps-down-huffman-replacement/

                                        [–]oneinchterror 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        As an outside observer, I'm really surprised that /r/itsafetish lasted longer than /r/GenderCritical

                                        [–]JulienMayfair 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        GenderCritical was the big "Give me her head on a platter" gesture to the TRAs from Reddit management. It was the most notorious all over Reddit for resisting trans ideology.

                                        [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        GC was listed as being taken out for being "unmoderated", iirc. It was targeted with rule-breaking content to get it removed. GC was also a much larger sub, afaik.

                                        [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Why go for the sideshoot when you can go for the head?

                                        [–][deleted] 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Some related subsaidits:

                                        [–]ankh 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                                        Most of these subs literally just point out "hate speech" from trans people. Did the trans mods threaten to kill themselves until the admins did what they demanded or something?

                                        [–]jet199 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        I saw the theory on here a week or so ago that these bans have all been planned by the admins and higher up and they are just using mods to rubber stamp it. I don't think the admins are friends to anyone either, they have their own agenda too.

                                        [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        No, they did exactly what they are doing to Facebook, went after the advertising. So long as advertisers think this is a hot topic it's a tactic that will keep working, even if it's just a shrill minority pushing them.

                                        [–]IridescentAnaconda 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Interesting. I was recently banned from LGBDropTheT. Long story, but I was interacting with a mod who was behaving like a typical T (immediately accelerated to hysterical and hypersensitive in an interaction where I was trying to be conciliatory), so much so that I suspected that I was interacting with an actual T who had been placed there by the Admins. I don't care too much, but it's funny how their behavior has such a clear signature.

                                        [–]worried19 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        Thank God at least they finally quarantined r/rapekink. It should be gone, though.

                                        How is it fucking fair to ban feminists and allow rape lovers their own space?

                                        [–]aella 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                        I hate this. I have a rape kink and people like you have made me feel ashamed for it for most of my life. But I'm not ashamed - it's a part of me and safe, consensual fetishes are completely fine to engage in. Rape fetishes are also dominantly preferred by women, so this is sort of a sexist move.

                                        [–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Not interested in debate, thanks.

                                        [–]Hellothereawesome 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        I guess the rich people in Hollywood are spending a lot on this garbage

                                        [–]Minerva 35 insightful - 8 fun35 insightful - 7 fun36 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Haven't you heard? Womenfolk aren't allowed to post on reddit unless a) they're men or b) they would theoretically fuck a man!

                                        [–]zyxzevn 29 insightful - 7 fun29 insightful - 6 fun30 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

                                        They are getting afraid of sane people.

                                        [–]VirgilioLegendre 20 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

                                        More like the owners of reddit, admins and mods are all insane.

                                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        (((insane)))

                                        [–]suckitreddit 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

                                        Do you know what I think? Fuck reddit. Fuck voat.co. Also, fuck notabug.io. Christ. Is this the only sane website on the internet? Saidit.net is gonna be my website.

                                        [–]Themagicalmidget 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        It will be if we keep it that way. It's so easy for a website to go full SJW or Neo Nazi without diversity of opinion though. That is why we all need to respect the parimid of discussion. Also we should try to like more none politically related content if possible, as to appeal to a wider user base.

                                        [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        Unfortunately as this site grows it will become dependant on advertising for server upkeep. At that point they will become just as susceptible to these cancel cultists as all the other sites. Even if advertising is not used, they can go after Visa, Mastercard, Patreon and Paypal. They have this shtick down to a fine art.

                                        [–]cloudrabbit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        But at least there are no downvotes here. That should count for something. People won't be afraid to speak their minds.

                                        [–]happysmash27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Donate, and advertising will not be needed.

                                        Another possible alternative: an equivalent to Reddit gold. It's not perfect, but at least it's not advertising, and it could be purchased with cryptocurrency to remove any reliance on payment processors.

                                        [–]dong_master 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Saidit is pretty good right now. It is mostly devoid of the really crazy overt racism you find on voat but isn't experiencing the censorship and compression of thought like Reddit.

                                        [–]jet199 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Seems it was an attempted take over of r/detrans.

                                        http://imgur.com/a/NGzfiET

                                        They really need to find another home and fast because this isn't going to stop. They are too much of a threat to the TRA narrative.

                                        Edit: weird goings on.

                                        https://twitter.com/julepparadox/status/1281710202421514240?s=19

                                        [–]Exconduckducktor 24 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

                                        My personal belief is the whole trans issue is being pushed as a by product of big pharma chemically sterilising us and as long as no one can challenge that then they are safe.

                                        [–]shveya 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        I think big pharma does have a lot to do with the trans craze. I am positive that there will be loads of class-action lawsuits against against them within the next 10 years.

                                        [–]EnnuiOz 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        I wonder if big pharma will duck and weave when that day comes and the hammer will actually fall on doctors and therapists.

                                        Just a musing as I can't believe that anything will bring big pharma down.

                                        [–]shveya 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        I didn't even think about that, but you're right, they probably will get out of it somehow.

                                        [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        That's just one aspect of it. The truth is most of these drugs aren't that profitable, hrt is off patent.

                                        The main people pushing this are autogynephilic men. Basically kids are being sterilised so men can get their rocks off more easily. https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/the-elephant-in-the-room-dc822144a81b

                                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        'Who Are the Rich, White Men Institutionalizing Transgender Ideology?'

                                        'Exceedingly rich, white men (and women) who invest in biomedical companies are funding myriad transgender organizations whose agenda will make them gobs of money.'

                                        https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

                                        [–]worried19 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

                                        They banned our small gender debate sub that I'd been a member of for over 3 years. That sub helped me several times when I was feeling suicidal. Fuck Reddit and fuck their attempts at censorship. We had a good sub, full of both trans and non-trans people. Yes, there was debate, but I feel like we were a community. Many of us liked each other. I had both trans and GC friends there.

                                        R.I.P. r/GCDebatesQT. If anyone can set up a debate sub on Saidit, it would be appreciated. We're homeless right now.

                                        [–]worried19 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        For anyone curious, a new debate sub has now been created:

                                        https://saidit.net/s/GCdebatesQT

                                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

                                        That sub helped me several times when I was feeling suicidal.

                                        And yet I was denied this same support because I did not fit the ideology enough, and it was not spoken up against enough to stop people like me from experiencing this.

                                        Any female members are welcome at the alternative women's open discussion sub, though the rules are a bit different than GCdebatesQT. Also /s/feminism allows anyone to post and could probably facilitate open discussion until a new debate sub can be made.

                                        [–]worried19 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

                                        What was your name over there? We had people from a variety of viewpoints. I can't remember anyone being denied for being too GC or too QT.

                                        Not doubting you at all, just curious. I really hope we can get a specific debate sub started here.

                                        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                                        GCdebatesQT was extremely strict about enforcing everything else in the "oppression hierarchy" except for trans stuff.

                                        I was banned several times, and I don't remember all my usernames. I don't remember what it was for the first time, honestly, probably "homophobia" or "racism" or "antisemitism". A sulky TRA user who kept talking about how GCdQT was "self-harm" had been trying to get me banned iirc, and eventually succeeded. The most recent time it was for a comment on ellielie's (I forgot their username exactly, the mod) mod post about "antisemitism". I complained about it -- I did not use slurs, I did not say anything hateful, I just complained about it the same way people complain about TRAs -- and it was hidden and removed. Similar stuff happened on GC and G_C and ActualWomen.

                                        Yeah, yeah, fine, whatever. "It's not the right place for me, if I don't believe in anti-racism and anti-anti-semitism and anti-homophobia-ism" to the same extent and in the same ways gencyn believes in anti-transphobia-ism. Hearing someone say how valuable those communities have been to them really drives home the point, though, about how much I was denied. I had always been more of a liberal-leaning person, but my experience was that "peak trans" was "peak" a lot more than just "trans", and it wasn't fair that I to self-censor about the legitimate stuff I'd had my eyes opened about. That "there's weird stuff in LGBT history and I don't know if I believe the official narrative" is considered unsayable. That "Jewish people sometimes abuse anti-semitism to suppress valid criticism" is considered unsayable. That the extent of the censorship wasn't even openly revealed to other participants. That everyone's anger is valid and beautiful and legitimate and good and powerful, but not mine. Not because I'm wrong, and not because I'm advocating hate against anyone, but rather because somebody who has control of the space wants to suppress certain ideas.

                                        [–]worried19 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                                        I don't recall discussions about those topics at all, but you are right anything along those lines probably would have been quashed. I know they were strict about not allowing anti-feminists, MRAs, and other similar groups.

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                        You don't recall them because they were censored and you wouldn't have been able to see them. You don't recall ellielie's post about antisemitism? It was within the last year I think, it was a mod sticky post for a little while until another one replaced it.

                                        That's the thing though -- what does enforcing one specific dogma about human sexual behavior have to do with feminism? Or protecting people from hate? What does only allowing positive discussion of Jewish people have to do with feminism? The smear is that "oh we're just removing people who promote hateful and anti-female ideologies" -- but that's the same kind of smear that just got all the GC stuff removed from reddit. I didn't do anything wrong, and I wasn't an "antifeminist" or "MRA" for trying to have an accurate impression of the world or for being angry if I thought things were being intentionally distorted.

                                        [–]worried19 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        I don't recall that. It probably just wasn't on my radar. I prefer to debate gender issues in a feminist space. Those other topics are not something I'm comfortable with.

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        Those other topics are not something I'm comfortable with.

                                        People would talk about race issues on GCdQT all the time though. "People sometimes use antisemitism as a shield against valid criticism" is a perfectly normal, natural, non-hateful response to someone bringing up the topic of antisemitism out of the blue themselves. And that's almost word-for-word what I was banned for. I don't think it's right.

                                        If it were only about "only discussing gender in feminist spaces" then all of that conversation would have been removed as "off-topic," but that's not how it was handled.

                                        It's the exact same MO as the TRA stuff that got GC banned.

                                        (And I don't remember what you personally chose to engage with but I wasn't talking about you personally, I was talking about the sub. You weren't a mod iirc.)

                                        [–]worried19 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Yeah, it's not really something I even feel comfortable discussing. So I think I'll wrap things up here.

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        People can engage with or not engage with whatever they like.

                                        I'm not sure what "feeling uncomfortable" is supposed to mean here but it sounds like there's an implication that I'm evil or hateful or something. That's not fair and it's not right.

                                        And I am just as much deserving of compassion when in need and attention when alerting to something wrong as anyone else is.

                                        [–]NorfolkTerrier 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        How does such a miniscule portion of the population have such unchecked power in online activism? This isn't a trick question, I legitimately have no idea. Is there just a massive correlation between being transgender and being "extremely online?" Has anyone studied this?

                                        I sympathize with dysphoric trans people (not AGP goons), but as long as it's impossible to actually discuss gender issues on a mainstream platform without being treated as a TERRIBLE PERSON that is LITERALLY KILLING TRANS PEOPLE I'd just rather not engage at all.

                                        [–]Minerva 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        The answer to your second question is yes- at least in my observation.

                                        They all seem to feed off of eachother online and are usually dweeby men and/or incels that were online all their lives to begin with. They were already enmeshed in moderator positions in forums (as seen on Reddit, for example), work in a field that has to do with IT more often than not, and have lots of influence on platforms like Twitter, where loud aggressive opinions are king. This is why it seems impossible to escape them. They're net-savvy dorks who decided to become their own GFs and turn the tide of LGBT progress into advancing Men's Rights Activism Pt. 2. With the power of the internet behind them, of course.

                                        That's my theory, anyway. 😄

                                        [–]venecia 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        I can totally see this. And I've also observed how quickly they learn that offline physical spaces aren't exactly super rah-rah-hooray about overweight neckbeards in dresses/rainbow hair in the ladies' room. It's no wonder that they protect their safe space online at all cost.

                                        It's still stunning that a community that is supposedly so oppressed has somehow amassed the amount of power and social capital to ''cancel'' those who disagree. I don't think I've seen even racists taken down with such chutzpah as a person who says women are biological females get.

                                        [–]PencilPusher55 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        This is the method they use (Not trans, most of le-redditors) to push ideas. If you disagree, you're *Insert "literally" killing X group".

                                        [–]notdelusional 13 insightful - 13 fun13 insightful - 12 fun14 insightful - 13 fun -  (0 children)

                                        They should just rename Reddit to Trannit.

                                        [–]PassionateIntensity 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        When your ideology is a House of Cards that can't stand the slightest skepticism. Assholes banned r/truelesbians. It wasn't GC or feminism orientated.

                                        [–]paranoidandroid 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        There is hardly anything left, Facebook went to shit a long time ago, then Youtube, then Reddit, Twitter, etc. Parler Seems to be pretty good, but it’s more of a Twitter clone, except you can write more.

                                        [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        Parler

                                        that shit is a fucking honeypot

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Totally agree. The fact that the logo looks like clasped hands / a sideways shekel symbol is pretty brazen.

                                        [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        You think thats the problem? The fact that parler asks for so much personal information so you can sign up is what gives them away.

                                        [–]Fictionsaur 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Remember: the majority of the people would be banned in Reddit if they ever genuinely exposed their views there. It's very possible we can reverse the tide and eventually the toxic trans community will realize they're a very small minority.

                                        [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        If anyone is looking to recover content from a banned sub, here are some tips. For anyone who's considering deleting their reddit account, you might want to consider overwriting existing comments first, here's one discussion about ideas for how to do that.

                                        [–]Bumblebeezzz 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Welp I finally sign up here now that everything is banned.

                                        [–]Fictionsaur 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Fuck! Kinda makes me really want to make this community the best possible for the newcoming victims of the "trans" bullshittery.

                                        [–]Investigatorfew7558 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        The TRAs were actually celebrating the banning of the detrans subreddit and calling it a TERF sub. It was no accident or whatever excuse the mods were making. Apparently there has been report spamming on that sub.

                                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        [–]Uncle-Ruckus 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Link?

                                        Edit : https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/hov0oa/ban_wave_part_2_has_hit_discuss_this_dramatic/

                                        I don’t agree with the ban waves or censoring, no matter who was banned, but I would be lying if I said I wasn’t happy r/MoreTankieChapo was banned. Nothing of value was lost with that.

                                        [–]Nelumbo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Yet morons will still try to claim the ban wave is the fault of commies and China, despite MTC being explicitly pro China. http://archive.vn/ORXqP

                                        [–]transphobicfaggot 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

                                        I’m just sitting here with my new screen name minding my own business.

                                        [–]Stand 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Damnit, why didn't I think of that?

                                        [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        "The purpose of describing political adversaries as ‘-phobes’ is to medicalize politics and treat different viewpoints as evidence of mental and emotional disorders" - Michael Lind, The New Class War.

                                        I have nothing more to say about all of this.

                                        [–]I_HATE_NIGGERS 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        I hope they keep doing these. Let them cannibalize themselves.

                                        [–]Lastrevio 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        WTF WHY WAS DETRANS BANNED WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

                                        [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        it was reinstated (for now), idk if it has different mods now or not

                                        [–]trannychaser 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Holy shit, I can't believe reddit actually did it.

                                        Well, fine, here I fucking am saidit! Long live free speech.

                                        [–]OnBlueBerryHill 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Meanwhile, actual spam is still going strong.

                                        [–]Honestanonymous 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        These ban waves are damn stupid i got banned from multiple subreddits for insanely stupid reasons, reddit is dogtrash they squished all my desire to contribute to fucking anything out of me these fucking pieces of shit.

                                        [–]TheInfernal 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        NO! Stop silencing us!

                                        [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        they're in panic mode over ghislane's reddit account and also this new wayfair thing

                                        [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                                          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          yeah lol look it up

                                          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          Yes. What's the wayfair thing?

                                          [–]Cboz83 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          Gosh! Just saw that many subreddits was banned.

                                          That is ridiculous.

                                          [–]maga_espada 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                          So is this site just gonna obsess about reddit?

                                          [–]PencilPusher55 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                          It will pass. I post in other subs as well. I think most of us are just shocked at having a website that no longer censors people any longer. It's a strange, liberating feeling.

                                          [–]maga_espada 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                          Which website did you find? I've seen plenty of bans here.

                                          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          notabug.io

                                          [–]FormosaOolong 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                          Only in subs with names like /MeanwhileOnReddit.

                                          [–]zeusdx1118 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                          r/LGBdroptheT got banned!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I will slay those trans extremists now.

                                          [–]bald-janitor 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          🤔

                                          [–]africant 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          even r/JoeRogan got shut down

                                          [–]SheSellsSeaShells 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          I’ll be surprised if more people don’t peak from this. Reddit is allowing itself to be devoured by fanatical cultists and will reap what they sow. There is no appeasing the cult, there is only more censorship and silencing until they have total control.

                                          [–]mufassil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                          Anyone know what happened to /r/popping

                                          [–]WhyDoesHeDoThat 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                          [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          So, Faggit now has, what, 5 subs left? I lol at those faggits

                                          [–]Wrencer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          They banned my sub r/uncensoredLGBT even though we weren't GC lol

                                          [–]Investigatorfew7558 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                          Has the powder room just been banned?

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                                          Enjoy your time! Marvel at the debauchery around you!