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[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The I is part of the community to bolster the T. To help push the sex is a spectrum nonsense. To make a fully functional male/female body seem like a medical condition (like intersex) that is treated by transition.

[–]our_team_is_winning 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sorry but you know some foolish people.

When are they going to add Klinefelter syndrome to the flag? What about PCOS? I mean if they're adding things that have to do with one's sex but not orientation, where does it stop?

[–]BusterGrundle 9 insightful - 12 fun9 insightful - 11 fun10 insightful - 12 fun -  (1 child)

I'm trying to get gluten intolerance added to it.

[–]goatmeal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope you succeed. that sounds very funny

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The only reason they even care about intersex people is to use them as a weapon to push trans supremacy. That's it.

[–]AugustiJade 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have a few intersex friends, whom speak with others in the intersex community, and not a single one of those people support the I being in the umbrella. I've heard so many stories of how transmen and women have pretended to be intersex to "excuse" their reasons for transition. No shit. It's my understanding that they are far more angry at the entire trans movement, than they are supportive. I suspect it has something to do with trans people constantly using the unfortunate intersex conditions as a way to argue their own existence. And I don't blame them for being angry, either!

People still use the stupid argument that being trans means that they have an intersex brain (despite zero proof). This flag bullshit has nothing to do with intersex people, but rather just another prop for the T.

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They use intersex people as a shield to validate trans and non-binaries. Non-binaries are actually included in the trans flag...

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well to whittle it down, Colin Wright does a good take on the topic of intersex frequency:

https://colinwright.substack.com/p/intersex-is-not-as-common-as-red

Where any clinically meaningful term of intersex results in 0.018% of people, a vanishingly small number. So let's look at that.

Complete AIS... "it's a girl!" Raised as such, has a vulva and a vagina, and usually isn't discovered until puberty when they don't menstruate. Infertile. Female gender identity, heterosexual identity.

Wisniewski AB, Migeon CJ, Meyer-Bahlburg HF, Gearhart JP, Berkovitz GD, Brown TR, Money J. (2000)

So, an unfortunate occurrence, and does need a little medical care, but it's nothing to to with being gay.

You can see from the table there, that after classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia, it drops steeply. So I'll just touch 46,XX CAH. (46,XY CAH does not result in intersex.)

In 46,XX CAH, there is a higher incidence of gender-atypicality, bisexuality, and homosexuality. In extreme cases, the fetus is exposed to higher levels of androgens than a male would be, and you can also get complete genital virulization, such that there is a well-formed penis and scrotum.

This can result in male gender identity, as well, but not frequently. It's rare, sometimes with SRS.

Meyer-Bahlburg, H. F., Dolezal, C., Baker, S. W., & New, M. I. (2008).

So, of the most prevalent phenomena that's actually intersex, the answer as to what intersex has to do with being gay is: a tiny bit. It's really more of an etiological clue to the sex researcher than anything. Certainly does not strike me as a salient social phenomena that would be better served outside the traditional rainbow wrt. non-heterosexuality.

They can just be bisexual or gay... or trans... in the initialism. (My guess is they probably don't really have a salient trans identity, maybe an intersex type identity? Less of "born in the wrong body," more like "what in the sweet jesus is going on with my endocrine system?") I've never heard an intersex person (coming from the intersex locus) clambering for being included in the initialism, but I've not gone looking. I stand to be corrected. It's usually bad actors trying to use intersex for their own devices... looking at you, T.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 11 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

You just happen to know three morons.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel like I'm going insane. What does being gay have anything to do with being intersex ?

Intersex conditions are coopted by the trans activism community as a justification and validation for trans issues, by conflating actual intersex conditions with autogynephilia and gender dysphoria, which are entirely separate. Intersex people are essentially a convenient political tool for trans activists, pawns to be used in their quest for political clout.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm really surprised that it wasn't the non binaries and asexuals forcing their way on

They are coming

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Who were these 3 people to you, and what were their arguments/support?

[–]Criticallacitirc[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Friends, I live in a progressive gay area. I only have one gay friend who isn't pretending to be a TRA. No arguments , just instagram stories with gifs and/or music.

[–]DropTheT 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

are the people supporting it all gay (the friends you know).

[–]Criticallacitirc[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes

[–]DropTheT 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

then show them this and be like, "oh my GAaaaAAWD! i dont get it! can you explain this to me?! are they bullying gay kids?" https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN6bUPUugEzmNmC-nZTunsVPUtgAuMANMmoVSD1j5gmROqY5E53VSCukHKc8zSRHA?key=bTMzMDNKeC1vbkFkRjlqTHJKM284RU1IQ3JkSlF3

[–]usehername 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What does being gay have anything to do with being intersex ?

Zero, but in their warped version of reality, it's related to being trans. The truscum/transmed stance is basically "intersex brains", and people with DSDs are always held up by TRAs as somehow "validating" their belief that they are/should be the opposite sex just by their existence as people with a medical condition effecting their sexual development.