What are your thoughts on the LGBTQIA+ as the B?

submitted by PeakingPeachEater from (self.Bisexuals)

Couple of questions before we start:

((going to start easy))

1) What's the first thing you think of when seeing that acronym?

2) Do you feel as though you are part of the community?

3) In your opinion, do all those letters belong together? If not, which letters do you feel belong together vs do not make sense?

3) As part of the B, do you feel supported by the other letters?

4) What is a good way to support the B?

5) What is a good way for the B to support the other letters?

6) Any additional thoughts?

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[–]clitoriana 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

1) What's the first thing you think of when seeing that acronym? Alphabet soup

2) Do you feel as though you are part of the community? I think I am, but I don't feel like I am.

3) In your opinion, do all those letters belong together? If not, which letters do you feel belong together vs do not make sense? LGB make sense together, TQ should go off and leave us alone, and the other stuff either isn't relevant or isn't real.

3) As part of the B, do you feel supported by the other letters? I barely feel supported by my own letter! 😂

4) What is a good way to support the B? Stop trying to define us if you aren't bi, stop asserting that we are somehow unable to fully understand homophobia or love either sex just because we can be attracted to both, stop downplaying what we deal with any time we dare to speak up about things that affect us.

5) What is a good way for the B to support the other letters? Stop talking over them, stop trying to interpret their sexualities and experiences through our own (if we don't like it when they do that, it's hypocritical to pull the same shit ourselves), respect their boundaries and exclusive spaces, and for fuck's sake if someone says they don't date bisexuals just accept it and move on. You don't want someone that doesn't accept you for who you are anyway.

6) Any additional thoughts? I don't know if there can ever be a real bi community. I think maybe we're just too diverse. But it would be nice if we had one, and if overall the bisexual "consciousness level" wasn't still at zero. Lol

[–]PeakingPeachEater[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

3) As part of the B, do you feel supported by the other letters? I barely feel supported by my own letter! 😂

Oh no! Why's that? :(

I don't know if there can ever be a real bi community. I think maybe we're just too diverse

Is it because of this?

I think if there's one thing the bi community could do is fight together against the TQ theories and against biphobia.

Also...I wish we had a bisexual community that isn't full of dumb memes like lemon bars or bisexual bobcuts or...finger guns...

4) What is a good way to support the B? Stop trying to define us if you aren't bi, stop asserting that we are somehow unable to fully understand homophobia or love either sex just because we can be attracted to both, stop downplaying what we deal with any time we dare to speak up about things that affect us.

I feel it...I keep seeing biphobia around that it's getting irritating.

[–]PeakingPeachEater[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1) What's the first thing you think of when seeing that acronym? Very...long.

2) Do you feel as though you are part of the community? Despite the "B", being in there, I don't feel like I can relate to the community at all.

3) In your opinion, do all those letters belong together? If not, which letters do you feel belong together vs do not make sense? The LGB should be separate from the gender related letters such as Trans, non-binary, genderfluid, gender...."queer"

3) As part of the B, do you feel supported by the other letters? Eh, nope. Not by the LGBTQIA+, they're extremely supportive of gender identity BUT NOT sexualities. Within the LGB...It's a lot MORE supportive but not completely. Mostly because while we CAN relate, not completely. They are attracted ONLY to same-sex while we're attracted to same-sex AND opposite-sex, so both of our worlds are a bit different---and that's okay.

4) What is a good way to support the B? I think a good way to support us, is starting off with dispelling stereotypes. Please don't hold it against us for the few minority who acted out. Also, we're NOT half straight and half gay, we are just "bisexual". We're also not secretly gay or secretly straight. No, we won't "convert" to being completely one way or the other. We'll never just "turn" straight or "turn" gay. That's impossible.

But apart from stereotypes, funding for mental health would be a good start! There are some articles online(which I will link in a minute) that state that bisexuals have the highest mental health issues out of the the LGBT+ and out of straight people.

There's also not a lot of bisexual ONLY groups. We don't have our own and we should look into creating our own spaces for our own needs.

Lastly, eliminating terms like "pansexual" and "queer" and whatever else that actual falls under bisexual. It makes us more invisble than we really are.

5) What is a good way for the B to support the other letters? For both the L & G, we should help them fight against those trying to invade their spaces. For example, there are "transbians" and "gaydens" that have took it upon themselves to try and convert both the lesbians and gay men sexualities---if they don't abide by the TRA's rules, they're transphobic.

Also! We should ensure that WE as the B, respect their spaces too!! If it's LESBIAN or GAY specific, we shouldn't be invading their spaces just because we "prefer the same-sex too!" That space is not for us, it's for them.

6) Any additional thoughts?

Well...in regards to bisexuals, like I mentioned before, we should definitely create our own spaces. Overall, I'm wondering if we should take out the B since we're not really that alike to the other letters and start something of our own? Of course we can be allies to the LG though! I just meant, have our own space. I think the L is trying to get out and have a space specific to their issues, so maybe we should too?

[–]cinnaflo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1) An ugly mess of insufferable people I don’t want to be near.

2) No, I don’t get them.

3) LG/LGB, the rest can go.

3) I kind of do to some extent. The “all inclusive crowd” is actually putting way more importance and priority for bisexuals/pansexuals than they are for homosexuals. (By enforcing heteronormativity in bisexuals, of course, as a way to “dispel” the stigma. They are still wildly homophobic though.) I don’t agree with them, but it still counts as supporting bisexuals, to a degree... The LG generally do not want anything to do with bisexuals unless they connect with them on their same sex attracted side, but I wouldn’t say they go out of their way to support us specifically.

4) Uplift bisexual people, remove stigmas that shame a bisexual’s opposite sex attraction, but at the same time, DON’T call a bisexual’s preference for the same sex as “internalized biphobia” 🙂🙂🙂. Invest in support communities that help bisexuals who struggle with depression, unhealthy coping behaviors, and sexual abuse. Call out misogynistic/biphobic straight men who use bisexual women as sex objects, and straight women who perpetuate it. Call out gays who make harmful blanket statements about bisexuals with terms like “bislut, breeder, dick worshipper (women)”, and among other things I won’t be listing. Right now bisexuals are doing whatever they can to call themselves anything but “bisexual” and none of this is helping. Inform people that bisexuals are a varied group. Both sides need to stop with the misogyny and in reducing us to sex objects.

5) Call out homophobia among both straights and bisexuals who enforce/perpetuate it. Don’t claim to be gay when you’re not, or that gay/straight people’s sexuality can change if they just tried hard enough. Make your own communities instead of latching onto gay specific only spaces. Acknowledge that being in a straight relationship gives you some privileges that gay people don’t or won’t ever have. Speak up against transgenderism, and against straight people (transbians and fujoshis) who shame/guilt trip gays into sex. Transgenders love bullying gay people, but when a bisexual says they don’t want to date transgenders or that they don’t see transgenders as their “identities”, this will make people question the authenticity of their movement.