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[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

If this isn't refuted in the next couple of years, you should substitute the milk for one of those weird non-cow based substitutes.

I'm experimenting with almond milk. It's working out.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

No thanks. the protean in those plant based alternatives are inferior. And the topic was coffee.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh, I didn't know that.

What's inferior about the plant based proteins?

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"What's inferior about the plant based proteins? "

My statement was on plant based milk alternatives, not plant based proteins in general.

As for those plant based alternatives, it is harder to assimilate soy based proteins into the body. Soy protein is only acceptable once it has been fermented into tofu. Almond milk, is mostly sugar. As for rice milk, it does not contain complete proteins, and lacks nutritional content.

And again, the topic was coffee.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

As for those plant based alternatives, it is harder to assimilate soy based proteins into the body.

I can't find any science behind this claim. Do you have a source?

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Okay the first link seems to highlight some possible dangers with soy if consumed in high quantity.

Most of the concerns with soy protein are related to high consumption levels, while moderate consumption seems to be safe and beneficial in most cases.

But it doesn't seem to discuss anything about being harder to assimilate.

As you might expect from the search terms.

Your second link is a youtube video ... great. I'll take a pass.

Your third link's thesis is that soy protein is interchangeable with and just as good as animal proteins for bodybuilding.

So you didn't find any science behind the claim either?

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your second link is a youtube video ... great. I'll take a pass.

Don't tell me, you look down on videos, as they are not as refined as text. Though you often times listen to audio books. Because logic, of course.

[–]Zapped[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I know. Cow's milk is for calves. My body seems to be able to handle it, though, and I don't consume as much as I did when I was young. I do like almond milk, but it's not creamy enough for my coffee.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Cow's milk is for calves, but the problem seems to be the impact of the pasteurisation process on the logevity of "insulinotropic branched-chain amino acids, and bioactive exosomal microRNAs".

I think it would be bad even for calves.

[–]Zapped[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I've seen the farm share groups prosecuted for unpasteurized milk. I remember tasting it for the first time on my Aunt's dairy farm. It was strange, but so good after I got used to it.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, it's got a much stronger taste.

And yes, it's dangerous, and being illegal makes some sense. Although it seems wrong that a small group who probably know the risks should be prosecuted. Or was this a farm share group thousands strong?

[–]Zapped[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Several people in my area got sick and some died from homemade cheese made with unpasteurized milk about ten years ago. As long as it's handled properly, I don't see a problem with it. The farm share group was less than 100 people. I think it was around 20. I just read up on it and they've figured out a way to get around the law. You can't take unpasteurized milk from someone else's cow, but you can take unpasteurized milk from your own cow. The group now owns the cows and the farm collects and distributes the milk for a fee. It's called herd share.

https://roanoke.com/news/virginia/got-raw-milk-virginia-farmers-use-herd-sharing-loophole/article_44cdc961-0f62-5ee0-8433-cab2ca488ff7.html

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Whoa! Death is more serious than I was expecting.

[–]Zapped[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ouch

[–]thefirststone 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Black in a cup, with hot water. I stir it a little while I wait.

[–]Zapped[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know that's the way it should be, but I like my milk.

[–]engineofgod 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The first 2 cups have milk, the second 2 are black.

[–]icebong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Iced cappuccino. I have a machine which grinds fresh coffee beans, and then pour that cappuccino into a cup full of ice. Sprinkle some cinnamon on top.

[–]Zapped[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Cinnamon, you say? Hmm.

[–]icebong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Chocolate powder works as well.

[–]filbs111 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Through my mouth. I prefer tea.