bit of an old post, but I saw it and thought I may as well add my thoughts.

This got a bit long.

Imo "redpilling" grew out of whatever pickup artist culture is. It's a culture that seems intentionally inconsistent with most ethics I was brought up with. That's what the "red pill" is -- you're actually supposed to be a "dark triad" bad person who hurts women because "they like it" if you want to have good things in life.

Around the 2016 election there was a campaign behind Trump that basically involved treating American whites, especially not highly educated or not wealthy or not urban whites, as a special interest group to pander to, like has been done with other ethnic or special interest groups in the US. It was heavily connected to this PUA culture type stuff.

It's basically another political party's version of "woke". I don't think it was really based on real education, but rather more on conversion tactics. People weren't doing the kinds of things that I would have expected in a good classroom for example, or on wikipedia, where the information is presented in a way that should at least attempt to be neutral, and students are genuinely encouraged to do their own exploration of the topic and come to their own conclusions. Instead it was highly manipulative and emotion driven, and people involved with it were primarily interested in getting others to see things a certain way rather than helping others to be genuinely more informed. Like "woke," a lot of ideas about being persecuted and others, including existing societal structures, being hidden enemies that should be treated as such. Is there truth in it? Sure, but I don't think it's really a movement whose main focus is truth and productivity, I think it was a manipulative election and and political campaign that grew partially out of a movement about how abusing people is good.

And now the election is over, so the campaign is pretty much over, but people haven't made new big campaigns in the meantime (COVID came along.) So people are going around still talking about and thinking about stale issues from a specific time and place meant to win the campaign because there hasn't been sufficient energy behind something else, and either people are lazy and just want something to talk and that's what's available or creating new content is hard or something. But I do think it's mostly stale and it's probably better for people to frame things today with whatever are actually the most pressing issues of today. Which aren't the same as whatever might win the 2016 election in the US, that's just not the correct focus.

Am I glad I know about all this "woke"/"redpill" stuff? I guess. It does seem like whites are being targeted in some ways that aren't ok, and that antidiscrimination laws seem a bit messed up, and that the "new left" is pretty abusive (and always was in ways I did not recognize before), and that Jews as a group really have done some shady stuff.

But I don't think that's educational. I don't think it's what a movement based on trying to help people be genuinely informed and able to look after their own interests would look like. And yes "education" is sometimes indoctrination too I have my problems with how it's run sometimes but there's also the idea of just helping people actually be more informed and skilled.

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So basically I think "red pilling" was a 2016 election campaign based on making a special interest group out of whites and men that has strong ties with PUA culture which is probably mostly about encouraging men to be abusive. It'd diminished in prominence because the 2016 election is over.

Is anyone still interested in redpilling new people - creating easy-to-understand educational content and sharing it on platforms like Reddit, Facebook, and YouTube?

I'm interested in having spaces that I think are actually positive and helpful to people. I think a lot of these tactics weren't about education but were about manipulative conversion.

I think there's still lots of interest in actual education content that's easy to share and communicate -- this recent map post for example is fascinating and also not very political (or not politicized yet, pretty sure you could politicize which way the toilet paper faces if you really wanted to). As there has always been an interest in teaching techniques and efficient communication techniques.

Personally I'm not very interested in converting people to a specific viewpoint in what I think is a somewhat manipulative way. I don't really like political organizing based on, well, getting groups to fight each other, I think it's often a scam that some third party is usually profiting from at the expense of the fighting groups ("divide and conquor"). Yeah sometimes there are actual conflicts of interest that need to be resolved but I think there are usually way better ways of going about it that end up creating lasting friendship and cooperation rather than animosity and harm to both groups.

I am interested in creating a positive environment where people are cooperating and supported and good things are happening for everyone. Where people are getting things done that matter and help by actually doing them, rather than just "raising awareness" and complaining about things a lot, which yes has a place but it does not seem to translate into positive action nearly as much as it seems like it would in a well-organized environment that was supposed to support that.

I do think those infographic shareable things can be helpful too. I'd like seeing stuff like "how to make lasting, healthy friendships" or "tips for positive outcomes to common conflicts" or "this is how benefits accumulate over time when you put a little more effort in each day" or even "how to quickly build an easy-to-maintain garden that will provide half the food needs for a family of 4 for 1 year in X climate". Or if you want to get "political" about it "how to achieve positive outcomes when holding an authority accountable."

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Well those are some of my thoughts, if you read them, but was there a certain kind of content you were looking to make and collaborate on? Those are my feelings about it right now but people have different interests and projects.